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AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT to deliver near RTX 4080 performance in games.

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If AMD can swing it then £499 for this would have it flying off shelves and their market share would definitely start going up.
Nah better to be greedy and have shelves sagging.
I mean why change a winning formula? /rolls eyes.
If AMD can swing it then £499 for this would have it flying off shelves and their market share would definitely start going up.
Do you feel £500 is too grand of an expectation? I mean, it would be incredible, but why would AMD do that when they can sell it for more and still sell just as many? I imagine the price will come in closer to £600 if the performance is at a 4080. That's double the price to performance ratio of Nvidia's, with RT improved and this new FSR 4 that... could actually be decent.
Considering AMD just lost even more dGPU market share I think AMD need to price low to entice people over to their products. Nvidia has the majority of the markets mindshare and that is something very difficult to over come.
I agree it wouldn't make sense for them. Nvidia will just price match and destroy AMD even further. AMD can't afford to sell it for no profit. AIB partners would leave them and AMD OEM cards are meh.But it's risky. Nvidia could just price their cards slightly more expensive and people would buy Nvidia. But at least if AMD charges more, they'll still just as many but have higher profit margins, thus keeping them in the game until they can truly disrupt the market. But maybe that has to start somewhere. Maybe AMD has to take the gamble and be aggressive.
They just can't sell it too expensive, raytracing is NOT worth a premium, so selling the same thing as a 7900XTX with slightly better RT for the same current price doesn't move the needle forward, they not gaining any market share now, and this new card won't gain them any either, they need to be aggressive or just give up.
They just can't sell it too expensive, raytracing is NOT worth a premium, so selling the same thing as a 7900XTX with slightly better RT for the same current price doesn't move the needle forward, they not gaining any market share now, and this new card won't gain them any either, they need to be aggressive or just give up.
Raytracing was an outright scam. Hear me out.
High end GPU prices more than doubled. For what? ray tracing. Yeah, my erse. It was gamers paying for their AI rubbish. And now they have it? lmao, they are done with you.
And that is why I have not, and won't, buy another Nvidia GPU again and also why I own 3 AMD ones. Because I couldn't give a Thomas Tit about "ray tracing". It's crap.
BTW the 7900XT was as quick as a 4080 without RT too. So it looks like this is going to be around the same as that. So why should it cost more than £500 then? given it is a mid range cut down version of that?
Like I said before, you need to offer something price to perf on a new gen. Not just stagnate the pricing so people pay the same for basically less.
This will go on until Intel make higher end cards. Then it will all change. But right now? AMD are just doing what Intel did when Ryzen was on the horizon and it will end about as well for RTG if they carry on with it.
I don't know whether you're being hyperbolic, but RT is 100% what I (and pretty much everyone) see as the future of graphics, and the future has to begin somewhere. Changes to game engines and GPUs have to come gradually. We can't just keep sailing in the Raster world for years, slowly building up data and designs of RT and path tracing, to a point when it can be unleashed on the world in one perfectly convenient swoosh.
Agreed ATM RT is a load of old cobblers and so's all the upscaling they keep waffling on about, upscaling is nothing more than a smoothing technology which adds lots of latency, yet they're charging us more for this shite, but so many people fall for the hype and BS, and unfortunately all companies are on the upscaling BS! Just give me more raster performance and whatever RT you have BUT don't upsell due to the RT, until it's actually viable.Raytracing was an outright scam. Hear me out.
High end GPU prices more than doubled. For what? ray tracing. Yeah, my erse. It was gamers paying for their AI rubbish. And now they have it? lmao, they are done with you.
And that is why I have not, and won't, buy another Nvidia GPU again and also why I own 3 AMD ones. Because I couldn't give a Thomas Tit about "ray tracing". It's crap.
BTW the 7900XT was as quick as a 4080 without RT too. So it looks like this is going to be around the same as that. So why should it cost more than £500 then? given it is a mid range cut down version of that?
Like I said before, you need to offer something price to perf on a new gen. Not just stagnate the pricing so people pay the same for basically less.
This will go on until Intel make higher end cards. Then it will all change. But right now? AMD are just doing what Intel did when Ryzen was on the horizon and it will end about as well for RTG if they carry on with it.
I don't and never will care about graphics. I care about good games, something we have far too few of given most have been turned into wallet breaking rubbish and pay to win.
Example? TLOU. It looked more than good enough to me. RT just adds grain, and murders performance. It can take a short walk off a large cliff.
But yes, I digress. RT? was never about RT. At all. It was about Nvidia developing AI hardware whilst gamers paid for it and then turning their back on said gamers and continuing to bum them dry for gaming GPUs. Those £1400 2080tis were paving the way for them to make AI GPUs.
Games don't need RTX. They need to be good. That is the first problem that needs addressing. Besides, there are no killer app PC only games any more and there never will be. Meaning they are being mainly developed for consoles and thus poorly optimised for PCs any way. It is just a tacked on afterthought.
BTW thought of the day.
If Nvidia cared one jot about gamers and gaming they would not have burned their bridges with Samsung, and would have continued making lower cost GPUs for gaming based on Samsung dies. All they ever cared about was AI. And they now have it.
YOU paid for all of the leg work and experimentation. So did I, like a mug. As soon as they got it they f-ed us off like a ginger slapper. Tell me, when was the last time Nvidia talked about RT? or gaming? lmao. 30 series. When we still sort of mattered.
If AI continues to succeed we are going to need Intel badly. Their tech is way better at RT than AMD's pound for pound.