Radeon HD 5870 Performance Revealed

[Rastalovich]

Be very careful when u swallow the cookies that manufacturer slides throw out to u.

We can all think back to the release notes of nVidia drivers coming out with "30% increase in CoD4" "40% increase in SomeGame2" - the figures are bllx. If it were true, there would be gigantic fps gains. If u have 100fps, u'd expect 130fps - which u won't get.

Intel/AMD used to play the same game. U don't see them do it so much tho.

Manufacturer slides are designed to make for warm and gooey crotch areas and for generating sales.

It'd be a terrible thing if we all fell for a sales pitch on the back of %age gains over previous generations, including the competition's previous gen, only for that competitor to release their new cards with slight embarassment.

 

[steve30x]

I fell fort the hype of the 4870 last year and bought one. Thinking it was better thasn my 8800GTX I bought one. I was wrong and sold the 4870 three weeks later and bought a GTX 280. I swore offATI for a few more years after that and I almost fell into that trap again here. I will wait for NVidia.

 

[AaronCooper]

 

[Ghosthud1]

nearlly double the texture fillrate and more then double pixel fillrate

and 2160Gflops thats nearlly double the original, so i think these benchmarks are valid

 

[Rastalovich]

so i think these benchmarks are valid

Just be carefull following the corporate stuff.

An OC3D bench-torture ofc would be acceptable

Win7, Dx11, and a Dx11 from both camps - that's going to be something to behold.

All the comparisons to previous generations don't mean much. Especially from the people who's job it is to sell the stuff.

 

[VonBlade]

Hmmm. Considering you can get a 275 to OC to 285 levels easily, and they only cost 150, it's not the huge leap really from those figures.275 in SLI @ 285 clocks would probably beat it for the same money.

Let's wait for some genuine benchies from our OC3D overlords

 

[Socks]

Let's wait for some genuine benchies from our OC3D overlords

:worship: Amen

 

[PeterStoba]

Hmmm. Considering you can get a 275 to OC to 285 levels easily, and they only cost 150, it's not the huge leap really from those figures.275 in SLI @ 285 clocks would probably beat it for the same money.

Let's wait for some genuine benchies from our OC3D overlords

But with that you have 3 issues;

Heat, power and compatability.

2 cards will be hotter than 1, 99% of the time.

2 cards will draw more power than 1, 99% of the time.

An SLI setup won't perform as good as a Single GPU in older / unoptimized games.

Also, with your point brings another argument, you can overclock the 275 to 285 performance? You can overclock the 285 for even more performance... You can overclock the 5870 to higher levels, for the same money.

 

[Zoot]

Be very careful when u swallow the cookies that manufacturer slides throw out to u.

We can all think back to the release notes of nVidia drivers coming out with "30% increase in CoD4" "40% increase in SomeGame2" - the figures are bllx. If it were true, there would be gigantic fps gains. If u have 100fps, u'd expect 130fps - which u won't get.

QFT. I'd take these figures with a rather large grain of salt.

I will wait for NVidia.

Could be a long wait, a chip with the die size of the GT200 at 40nm has all the potential to become a nightmare.

 

[steve30x]

I dont care. ATI might be leading now with thw 5870 but I would kicking myself if I bought a 5870 and NVidia brought out a GPU that whooped its ass two times over. I can wait. My GTX280 will do me for now and if that dies I still have my 8800GTX.

 

[iceie]

You gotta check if the game has ATI or Nvidia archietecture cause I know battle forge is the ATI engine

 

[VonBlade]

1 : 2 cards will be hotter than 1, 99% of the time.

2 : 2 cards will draw more power than 1, 99% of the time.

3 : An SLI setup won't perform as good as a Single GPU in older / unoptimized games.

Also, with your point brings another argument, you can overclock the 275 to 285 performance? You can overclock the 285 for even more performance... You can overclock the 5870 to higher levels, for the same money.

1. Yep. But if you can afford 300 notes on gfx I doubt that heat is an issue.

2. Yep, but who cares about a few hundred watts? Just make a couple of less coffees. And how often is your PC running at full load anyway?

3. True. But how many older games would need SLI anyway? Most of my old games work fine and my system is made of woad. And how many incompatible games are there actually.

Yes but by that argument why does everyone buy 920s when a 975 would overclock faster? Oh because of price. So my point is still valid. Especially considering the exact comparison being made was between a 5870 (300?) and a 285 (275 @ 285 clocks = £150).

 

[zak4994]

Yes but by that argument why does everyone buy 920s when a 975 would overclock faster?

One more reason is because 920 is/was supposedly better at overclocking. Bit like the Q6600.

 

[VonBlade]

I know. I'm just stretching the point to its logical extreme because I'm bored

 

[Rastalovich]

2. Yep, but who cares about a few hundred watts? Just make a couple of less coffees. And how often is your PC running at full load anyway?

erm..

 

[steve30x]

erm..

Great post that made no sense

 

[zak4994]

Great post that made no sense

He means that he has his PC running at full load.

 

[Youngie1337]

Overkill even for i7 .

 

[steve30x]

Overkill even for i7 .

You do realise that these cards are DX11 right? You do mean the GPU is overkill right? (some of you guys are so vague)

 

[Socks]

being vague is what we do best, it keeps threads alive and posts posting...