Pump / reservoir advice.... again.... sorry....

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Im sure this has beeen covered numerous times but i cant find it so apologies for repeating questions...

For reference, current plan is a Monsta 240 for the CPU loop (Koolance 370 block), and a Monsta 360 for 2 6970s (2 x XSPC 6970 block)

I am happy to listen to advice re this either of these being shitty blocks.

What, if any, are the options for a very quiet, high flow, good head, dual bay / dual loop res/pump combo ?

Are the various non drive bay pump/rad combos generally accepted as being quieter ?

All things being equal, I would rather go with a double drive bay double reservoir or two reservoirs with pumps attached just to keep the pipework neat.

Thanks for your patience.
 
danger den's monsoon dual bay res for the d5 comes to mind its single or dual loop capable. Alphacool had a dual d5 model that can be used with a single d5 but I beleive its only single loop if using one d5

I have the Danger Den one and it works perfectly for me. Running dual loops 420mm rad to cpu and 280mm rad to gpu's. 2600K and 6950's unlocked and clocked to past 6970 specs.
 
Thank you for your replies.

The dual loop is by no means set in stone but It is looking like it will actually be neater.

Current plan is both rads outside the case (Antec P280). I just cant get enough rad in the case and having half in and half out seems pointless (apologies if I am breaking ancient watercooling lore, its my first water build).

I've looked at various configs of the rads outside and currently plan to mount a 240 on stand-offs over the 240 grill in the roof, and a 360 on the same stand-offs on the rear 120 grill (see attached scribble)

In this config 2 loops seems like it will be less busy. I dont know though... as I say, its my first water build so I have no experience and its all guess work.

Re the D5, a few comments from others on this forum had me thinking that the higher head pressure DDC pump in its 18W version would be the minimum for a single loop 3 block pump.

This is roughly the current plan. I might end up with the top rad outlets to the back of the case.

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edit: The danger den monsoon looks really nice but I was hoping to have a pump res combo as I said. Im not quite as keen on the looks of the XSPC res but if I found one with the right pumps on it I would consider it.
 
If you're going for 2 loops, then the extra cost from a second pump, fittings, coolant, and the more expensive dual loop reservoirs I would say would be more expensive than a new case. If you got something like a coolermaster 690 (not really suggesting you should get that specifically, just an idea) then you could fit 2, 240mm rads in, and the case only costs like 60-70 quid. If you had an XSPC EX240 in the roof, and one of the monsta 240s in the floor, then that would be sufficient cooling for the cpu and the cards. Obviously wont be as cool as the 360 and the 240 in your original design, but it will look far nicer, and cooling will not be hindered a great deal from doing this.

I just think dual loops, especially in a case as small as that, and even more so for one that's meant to be a soundproof case is a bad idea. And mounting rads on the outside will look horrendous
 
I haven't really considered getting a case more suited to water-cooling. I only got the P280 6 months ago and while in retrospect it is clearly not what I should have bought, er indoors is going to go ballistic if I get another one.

That said, I am now looking at cases, which is your fault, and I will definitely be blaming you along with the changing environmental conditions in the UK and the recent lacklustre performance of the Greek economy.

Nothing is ever simple is it.
 
External cooling dear god dude that was out of date 5 years ago.....

One single loop, couple of internal rads. Easily done with stuff available now.

Antec make nothing worth buying IMHO
 
Indeed the Monsoon Reservoirs are sexy. I'd wait, because they are releasing a new one by the end of the month that looks even BETTER than their current offering.

I'd go one loop. You don't have a machine that necessarily dictates having two separate loops. By all means, do 2 loops if you want, but it would be much more cost effective going one loop.
 
Gawd bless you Guvnor...thank goodness you are here to steer me away from watercooling fashion faux pas.

Seriously though... I do listen to your advice because I am not as stupid as I look.

Im not even going to show you the pattern Im thinking of having cut into the door....
 
XNine said:
Indeed the Monsoon Reservoirs are sexy. I'd wait, because they are releasing a new one by the end of the month that looks even BETTER than their current offering.

I'd go one loop. You don't have a machine that necessarily dictates having two separate loops. By all means, do 2 loops if you want, but it would be much more cost effective going one loop.
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I felt like I was in danger of loosing momentum so I bought one of these http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/Alphacool-525-Single-Drive-Bay-Repack-Laing-DDC-Bay-Station-Reservoir-pid-15346.html

and one of these http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/customer/Koolance-PMP-400-522Lph-18W-DDC-Pump-V325--PMP-400-pid-13999.html .

Also bought the 3 blocks, 2 rads, various fittings and some tubing.

So yes, I have accepted everyone's advice to stick to 1 loop
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If I dont like the look of the reservoir I may change it later.
 
I have read about those special tech res and people say they are hard to clean.

Pump should be fine for what you are doing.

I to have the DD Monsoon and love it. It has openings big enough to get in and clean if needed but you should not have a problem due it being pure delrin.
 
magicc8ball said:
I have read about those special tech res and people say they are hard to clean.

Pump should be fine for what you are doing.

I to have the DD Monsoon and love it. It has openings big enough to get in and clean if needed but you should not have a problem due it being pure delrin.
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The DD reservoirs look way nicer I'll give you that, but I had assumed from the pictures of the Alphacool res that the whole back comes off for cleaning.

I will probably do a small review of all the parts Im using from a complete noobs perspective when its working.
 
I would suggest the DD. I just got one, and it is sound quality all around! I have had problems with other manufacturers and reservoirs recently and learned you get what you pay for.
 
You are right about getting what you pay for... Just taken delivery of a alphacool single bay res (£30) and the fascia is pretty poor. Still, at £30 you cant complain really.... the general construction seems pretty good and the threads are nice and tidy. I guess Ill find out when I leak test lol. Im still considering the DD res. We will see
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Got the monsta 240 rigged today with 4 1200rpm fans in push/pull. It is looking phat
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also put a block on one of the 6950/70s, put in the MB and started looking at cable management and extensions and all that. Just picked up a couple of fan cable splitters and a 8pin power extension. Still waiting for the roof rad and and the second 6950/70 to arrive from ebaynia then I can crack on a bit.
 
I just got a couple of sleeved 2 into 1 splitters. I already have a 1 into 3 splitter a bit like the one you linked to, goes into a MB header for the speed control, but it takes power from a molex, so I will plug the other splitters into that.

Thats the problem with having a half reasonable PC bits shop near work... you end up with not quite the right thing because you can have it without waiting for delivery.
 
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