Photography DSLR (would like to buy new)

mayhem

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Oky went into a camera shop and walked out dizzy with all the crap buzz words and was totally put off by the sales person to day filling my brain with so much crap he lost the sale.

What i am after.

  • DSLR camera (my first)
  • The ability to take real close up macro work. And i mean real close up not some shit it can read text on a page.
  • The ability to make the back ground blend with the foreground crisp and clear
  • Shit hot night time shooting with the ability to show of UV light in a dark room
  • The ability to take Hi Def films

Very important - Simple to under stand (my heads all ready full of other stuff i do not what to be a pro at using a camera i just what to make it simple)

What i need to shoot.

PC's and liquids for web site use

Show PCs

Extreme close up shots of PCB's

90% of work will be done on tripod and light tent

Any suggestions guys and all so the lenses must be cheap as well as the battery's

Will save up about £500 to spend (next month)
 
The last time I was researching a DSLR, I stopped at looking at a Canon EOS 60D versus a secondhand 50D. So I can't give you any specific models, or updated information; so I'll be limited to giving general advice at what to look for.

1- The ability to take real close up macro work. And i mean real close up not some shit it can read text on a page.

2- The ability to make the back ground blend with the foreground crisp and clear

3- Shit hot night time shooting with the ability to show of UV light in a dark room

4- The ability to take Hi Def films

PC's and liquids for web site use

Show PCs

1- Extreme close up shots of PCB's

1- 90% of work will be done on tripod and light ten

5- Any suggestions guys and all so the lenses must be cheap as well as the battery's

6- Will save up about £500 to spend (next month)

1: Indoors, tripod, still life subject; good. You more or less only need to worry about lighting and lenses. Maybe for a extreme close-ups, a lens-mounted ring light would be an excellent idea; nothing overly fancy as long as you set the white balance first. Shoot everything at low ISO, shutter speeds, and utilise the shutter release timer as your remote shutter release to take your photo after all the button pressing related vibrations have passed. Low ISO and shutter speeds lets you let in more light over a long time; the lighting just soothes out better, and as a bonus you get less noise dirting up the photo.

2: For a blurred background or foreground, you'll need to set the aperture (f-stop) on the lens to the minimal. Having a low f-stop shortens the depth of field of what's in focus, it also widens the aperture hole inside the lens to let in more light, thus enabling even slower shutter speeds. Since you're on a budget, you probably willn't have much choice in the quality of bokeh (Blurriness. Yes, people paid extra money for more blurriness) you can achieve with your lens.

3: Combining the first to responses; use a very low ISO, wide open aperture (low f-stop number) and set as slow a shutter speed as you need in the dark. One second, ten seconds, half a minute exposure? why not, whatever is needed. You can use a flashlight with a diffuser (eg. tissue paper) to add some creative fill light during the exposure. But if you're trying to capture your fluids with particulate without motion blur, then you'll have to play around with a flash or speedlight and faster shutter speeds.

4:
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I dunno. It's very camera dependant if they have 1080p video function, but the more recent cameras usually can do Full HD video.

5: If you're shooting indoors in a studio like environment, maybe you can look into a AC adapter to power the camera instead of running off the batteries.

6: That's quite a tight budget, but workable. Definitely looking at secondhand gear to save. I see that Sony Alpha cameras are doing good things in the entry price range. Spend your money on the lens(es).
 
Well for the camera and first lens i thought 500 smackers was enough. I have tripods and lights and light tents. its just the camera im after .
 
Well for the camera and first lens i thought 500 smackers was enough. I have tripods and lights and light tents. its just the camera im after .
 
I'm a local professional photographer and the key thing to remember when buying a new camera is not to get caught up in features you don't need. Great pictures come from a great photographer, not a great camera.

Buying new is great and all, warranty, and you know exactly what you are getting as far as condition goes.

BUT, you're probably not going to get exactly what you want in the price range you want if you are only willing to buy new.

I spend a lot of time on the Canon Photography on the Net forums and have sold and purchased a ton of gear on the site. If you stick with a long time member with reputable trades you can find a much better deal on kit thats much more capable for less than buying new.

Now, back to gear.

I will only say this once. Go full frame from the beginning and never look back. APS-C sensors are just too small, they have poor low-light performance and always introduce more noise in to the photograph.

In your price range you should be able to find a first generation 5D which has a 12.8mp full frame sensor. Also, don't get caught up with megapixels! They have no bearing on image quality, only the size in which you can print your photo's. You'll be able to capture much more detail going this route than messing with these new APS-C sized sensor cameras. You will also be gaining a much more rugged camera. A complete magnesium allow camera body with weather seals opposed to a much smaller and cheaper plastic body that lacks any kind of seals.

The old lady is begging me to come grill these steaks so I have to run but if you have any questions hit me up!
 
I'd seriously recommend getting a Canon 550D (which can be found for a competitive price, since the 600D has come out) with a 50mm f/2.8 macro and standard zoom lens. It should stand you in good stead, plus it can do 1080p, 24fps video. Nothing can touch it in terms of price to performance. I use Sony A systems cameras, namely A200/A330 with 50mm f/1.4 which does me fine, as I don't need video, plus the fast prime focuses well and get pretty close (due to 1.5x crop).
 
lol im lost all ready ..

FragTek Ill carry on this tread next month when the money is all saved up.
 
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