PC Randomly Crashes
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Ok... so I removed the 590 and had to install onboard drivers.
First of all, I am amazed at how powerful the onboard graphics are. It can almost run Sims 3 on max (without AA) at the same frame rate as my 590.
But I was having some glitches... no crashing so far. The contrast and colors seems to switch between dark and light:
Not sure if I just have the settings too high or need to reinstall drivers.
How can I test the system with onboard graphics? Also, are there no tests for the motherboard?
Update: Rebooted and closed old Nvidia processes. No screen issues, runs great.
Still not sure how to test onboard graphics, but I guess it was my GPU.
Update 2: Have been stress testing the whole system as much as I possibly could. I had prime95 running for a while, while running the Sims 3. No crash.
Tried rendering a 1080P movie, while stressing all system components with AIDA64 and photoshop open as well. No crash.
First of all, I am amazed at how powerful the onboard graphics are. It can almost run Sims 3 on max (without AA) at the same frame rate as my 590.
But I was having some glitches... no crashing so far. The contrast and colors seems to switch between dark and light:
Not sure if I just have the settings too high or need to reinstall drivers.
How can I test the system with onboard graphics? Also, are there no tests for the motherboard?
Update: Rebooted and closed old Nvidia processes. No screen issues, runs great.
Still not sure how to test onboard graphics, but I guess it was my GPU.
Update 2: Have been stress testing the whole system as much as I possibly could. I had prime95 running for a while, while running the Sims 3. No crash.
Tried rendering a 1080P movie, while stressing all system components with AIDA64 and photoshop open as well. No crash.
KING_OF_SAND
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Have you checked for a BIOS update for the GPU, maybe reverting to older known working drivers? Also yea intel hd2000 if you are using that is suprisingly fast. I can run COD 4 and mw2 at 720p max settings no AA at 60FPS.
[font=verdana,geneva,sans-serif]I tried swapping my card to the second PCI-e slot... and I have a huge problem with my case / card / motherboard.
The second slot feels to be deeper in the case. The card bracket hits the mount on the case and won't let me insert the card fully into the slot (or so it feels). It also appears to be diagonal with the far right side of the card hitting the motherboard heatsinks. I've pushed the back of the case in to line up with the mounting bracket, but when the screw is in and I let go of the case, it looks as if it's going to rip the right end of the card out of the motherboard.
So, left side is in but not completely due to the bracket being "too short" and the right side is able to be fully inserted but gets pulled out and left due to the back mounting area of my case being so tight.
It is similar in the first slot but I didn't notice it as much.
I will run some tests and games to see how the second slot works out.
Am I able to raise the mobo off the back of the case a bit more somehow?
Update: I ran Sims 3 and played for a while with no issues. I ran FurMark and everything was fine. But when I tried to run AIDA64 with all system components and GPU stress testing, it crashed the Nvidia drivers again, or the Kernel. I don't know if it's the program or the card. Shouldn't I see artifacts in OCScanner if the card is the problem? But I don't... I guess I'll just keep trying to get it to crash again.
This is so impossible.
Update 2: I would love to just stick it to the GPU and have this whole thing over and done with; however, I ran IntelBurnTest while rendering a movie in After Effects and playing the Sims 3 in 3D... slow as hell, hot as hell... but no crash.
Is it not possible, or logical, to say that the first PCI-E slot on my motherboard is bad? Or does that fact that I'm getting Nvidia driver / kernel errors automatically rule out the motherboard?
Is there nothing I can do to definitively rule out the motherboard as the culprit?
Update 3: Ok I think it's the motherboard. I've been playing for a while now and no crash. I'm going to put the card back into slot 1 and see if it crashes again.
Update 4: OK. So I'm just about ready to rip my own hair out.
Put the card back into slot one... it did this:
But I ran Sims 3 (the game that crashed the most) for half an hour with AIDA64 kickin' away in the background... NO crash.
WHY is this happening? When I want it to crash now... it won't. Maybe it was seated wrong before?
When I took the card out to run on the onboard graphics the first time, it installed a lot of extra drivers. Was I supposed to have the onboard drivers installed while using the card as well... and now it's fixed?
I have two RMA's pending now... and I can't seem to find anymore problems.[/font]
The second slot feels to be deeper in the case. The card bracket hits the mount on the case and won't let me insert the card fully into the slot (or so it feels). It also appears to be diagonal with the far right side of the card hitting the motherboard heatsinks. I've pushed the back of the case in to line up with the mounting bracket, but when the screw is in and I let go of the case, it looks as if it's going to rip the right end of the card out of the motherboard.
So, left side is in but not completely due to the bracket being "too short" and the right side is able to be fully inserted but gets pulled out and left due to the back mounting area of my case being so tight.
It is similar in the first slot but I didn't notice it as much.
I will run some tests and games to see how the second slot works out.
Am I able to raise the mobo off the back of the case a bit more somehow?
Update: I ran Sims 3 and played for a while with no issues. I ran FurMark and everything was fine. But when I tried to run AIDA64 with all system components and GPU stress testing, it crashed the Nvidia drivers again, or the Kernel. I don't know if it's the program or the card. Shouldn't I see artifacts in OCScanner if the card is the problem? But I don't... I guess I'll just keep trying to get it to crash again.
This is so impossible.
Update 2: I would love to just stick it to the GPU and have this whole thing over and done with; however, I ran IntelBurnTest while rendering a movie in After Effects and playing the Sims 3 in 3D... slow as hell, hot as hell... but no crash.
Is it not possible, or logical, to say that the first PCI-E slot on my motherboard is bad? Or does that fact that I'm getting Nvidia driver / kernel errors automatically rule out the motherboard?
Is there nothing I can do to definitively rule out the motherboard as the culprit?
Update 3: Ok I think it's the motherboard. I've been playing for a while now and no crash. I'm going to put the card back into slot 1 and see if it crashes again.
Update 4: OK. So I'm just about ready to rip my own hair out.
Put the card back into slot one... it did this:
But I ran Sims 3 (the game that crashed the most) for half an hour with AIDA64 kickin' away in the background... NO crash.
WHY is this happening? When I want it to crash now... it won't. Maybe it was seated wrong before?
When I took the card out to run on the onboard graphics the first time, it installed a lot of extra drivers. Was I supposed to have the onboard drivers installed while using the card as well... and now it's fixed?
I have two RMA's pending now... and I can't seem to find anymore problems.[/font]
YogevSkill
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Friend i i have combed through this thread , after every post you've made i had some suggestion to fix your BSOD problem.
but now after i read your final post it seems like you simply vantured into the realm of the bizzare .
it looks like it was a mobo\bios\phisical gpu placement or setting, (alot potenially).
but honestly it could be some minor issue with your OS volsnap.sys or driver mangement or recognition.
anyways if the problem reappears ill be more than happy to help.
cheers to all who contributed here.
but now after i read your final post it seems like you simply vantured into the realm of the bizzare .
it looks like it was a mobo\bios\phisical gpu placement or setting, (alot potenially).
but honestly it could be some minor issue with your OS volsnap.sys or driver mangement or recognition.
anyways if the problem reappears ill be more than happy to help.
cheers to all who contributed here.
I really appreciated all of your input. I'm sure it helped somewhere here. It's just a mess of problems.
Hippie Tech
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Try manually dialing in the cpu and ram's speed/volts, @ stock, using the bios and/or manually set the windows pagefile to a minimum and max of 12 or more gigs.
pEACe
pEACe
Ok, I am at the point where I am going to lose my mind...
I have been having this issue where my PC will randomly get the BSOD or it would get a black screen and fans would all go crazy with no response, and now I'm having my computer just lose complete power altogether. It just shuts off mid application.
This is most often when doing several processes at the same time, or while doing media editing (After Effects and Vegas).
I have replaced my RAM, my PSU... I've monitored temps and they are all well below average. I've ran tests on Prime, removed all overclocks... I'm out of options here.
EVGA says the GPU is fine. I have a new SSD on the way so I will install a new copy of Windows and see if that does anything.
Is it possible it's the motherboard... or perhaps my CPU somehow? Maybe software?
Please help me!
Hi, I had a smiliar problem and I have two EVGA 570HD cards. When I talked to the Tech he mentioned that I should disable the sound drivers via the Device Manager. Under System Devices you will see High definition Audio Controllers. Right click on one of them and see if the Location is where your video card (example PCI bus 3, device9, function1) if it is where your video card is pluged into then uninstall it. Dont know why it would conflict but since I did it I have not had anymore crashes.
That almost makes sense... I will definitely do that if I experience another crash.
A bad power supply can cause all sorts of issues. if you have another to test with try that that. Also make sure your video card is not in an x4 slot and the gpu power is not overloading any individual rail. Mostly I would think you are looking at bios, hardware config or failure. If your running win 7 you can try this to see what caused your bluescreen http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee460921.aspx . if all else fails try (carefully) removing your cpu checking for bent pins and reseating. Good luck.
I believe I fixed the issue... but I'm still running tests to be sure. I think it may have been a simple reseating of the hardware.
I also already replaced my PSU, and swapped PCI-e slots, reset all bios settings, disabled unnecessary hardware, etc... seems to be fine now though.
It happened again, just loading a game.
Monitor turned off and fans raised to 100%, PC lights still on, game audio froze but still audible (like skipping), pressed reset and nothing happened, had to power down then boot back up. No info in Event Viewer. I think its the video card.
Monitor turned off and fans raised to 100%, PC lights still on, game audio froze but still audible (like skipping), pressed reset and nothing happened, had to power down then boot back up. No info in Event Viewer. I think its the video card.
Absolutely I have. Every driver version, beta and legacy. Clean uninstall every time. DriverSweeper. Clean install. Rebooting in between.
lets backtrack a little and double check a few things
I have a few questions
are you using the Corsair AX850W?
were you having these issues before you went to that psu?
if the answer is yes to both double check the pci-e cables make sure both cables are plugged into the correct spot on the psu. pull them and reseat them on both ends(long shot to be honest if you were having problems with the other psu) make sure they go in all the way.
is everything in the bios to default? if not try again.
Did you reseat your cpu? if not give it a try, check for bent pins.
overheating vrm's? try a fan on them to see if you can rule that one out. it only needs to be on them until it happens again.
I have read all the things you have tried. if you have tried everything I just wrote too and its still happening then I would guess it is your card or mb. not sure how you can narrow it down without another card(pref a 590) to test with. or another system to put your 590 into. if I had to guess I would say mb but really cant say for sure.
good luck
I have a few questions
are you using the Corsair AX850W?
were you having these issues before you went to that psu?
if the answer is yes to both double check the pci-e cables make sure both cables are plugged into the correct spot on the psu. pull them and reseat them on both ends(long shot to be honest if you were having problems with the other psu) make sure they go in all the way.
is everything in the bios to default? if not try again.
Did you reseat your cpu? if not give it a try, check for bent pins.
overheating vrm's? try a fan on them to see if you can rule that one out. it only needs to be on them until it happens again.
I have read all the things you have tried. if you have tried everything I just wrote too and its still happening then I would guess it is your card or mb. not sure how you can narrow it down without another card(pref a 590) to test with. or another system to put your 590 into. if I had to guess I would say mb but really cant say for sure.
good luck
