Oh god what to pick...........X370 boards

Id wait for tom to get his hands on the motherboards and then we can get the downlow and make a better informed choice on motherboards.
 
Can't really tell people what to get.
There are no reviews right now. Would be premature for us to help.

If you really want to get one, then buy off the features you can see on the board and/or aesthetic. Or you can simply go for branding, which one you prefer.
 
AlienALX said:
Asus every time.
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Thats my gut feeling too, im leaning towards the crosshair but honestly the prime looks good too. What i do wonder though is whats the stance on the nda/embargo on the reviews for motherboards.

Will we have to wait for the 2nd and then we get a slew of reviews within minuites or what ?
 
Shingara said:
Thats my gut feeling too, im leaning towards the crosshair but honestly the prime looks good too. What i do wonder though is whats the stance on the nda/embargo on the reviews for motherboards.

Will we have to wait for the 2nd and then we get a slew of reviews within minuites or what ?
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I've already heard from 8 Pack via Gibbo that basically the Asus is the only board that can handle 3200mhz+ on the ram. I would imagine because of the extra phases for the memory. It has a 8 pin EPS and a 4 pin for the ram alone, same as the Crosshair AM3+

But even that wouldn't swing me. It's the bios. Plus Gigabyte have been blowing up CPUs with their over zealous voltages too.
 
gigabyte were bad out of the gate with fx too. Thats why im waiting for tinytom before even buying any mobo just yet, got my cpu so ye just waiting on toms reviews.
 
Shingara said:
gigabyte were bad out of the gate with fx too. Thats why im waiting for tinytom before even buying any mobo just yet, got my cpu so ye just waiting on toms reviews.
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I can already all but guarantee that the Asus will be the best board.

The Crosshair has always demolished everything in its path. The only one I ever had I did not like was the one based on the Nforce chipset that was SLI only and would refuse to POST if you put more than one ATI GPU in it.

Yeah screw that noise, that soon went.
 
ASUS is the safer bet. Their motherboards generally have everything you need. It's a shame that others can't seem to compete in as many areas so consistently. However I prefer the looks of the Gigabyte. ASUS boards are too common these days. They look awesome, but I would like something different. It's also more expensive. Whatever is said, though, definitely wait for reviews. There could be some serious BIOS bugs that need ironing out. For all we know ASUS haven't made the best board this time around. It may not be likely, but it's always possible.
 
I was just going to come back here and report my findings as it goes !

Buy the Asus. End of. Gigabyte has 6 phases rofl. 6 phases for a 8 core, they're mental !!

Reasons to buy Asus.

1. Better bios.
2. Better looks (IMO, though is subjective)
3. It's the best at clocking memory (fact)
4. It's level with the Asrock Taichi for overclocking (fact)
5. It has AM3 holes, so if you have a water block you don't have to buy a new block or adapter it will just fit straight on.
6. Best power phases. Has power phases dedicated to the memory, same as the CH5 AM3+

From Gibbo of OCUK yesterday.

We just tested a 1700, it hit 4.0GHz stable in everything, but ONLY in the Crosshair mainboard, the lower-end boards it was hovering around 3.80GHz as the VRM’s were cooking with extra voltage. It however was maxing around 4050MHz, so I’d say 1700 can do 3.9-4.1GHz, of course the 1800X will probably do 4.1-4.3 as no doubt better binned, but if your clocking the motherboard has a big impact on the overclock and so far Asus Crosshair and Asrock Taichi seem the best two.

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-overclocked-4ghz/

And I was absolutely right. DO NOT buy the 1700x or 1800x. You are paying a ton load more for 200-300mhz. NOT WORTH IT !

Warchild said:
I'd like to agree since I always buy ASUS, but you have to admit, they really do milk us for the money. These days I think their price v performance is way out of whack.
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I think you will find that is Intel. Asus are selling a top spec class leading board for AM4 for £250. Compare that to this, for example.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...cket-2011-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-68b-as.html

And bear in mind that the Strix may end up being a lower spec board than the Crosshair...

At the end of the day you get what you pay for. I will always buy Asus motherboards where and when I can because for me they have been the best.

Quick example here. AM3+ Crosshair V FZ. 8+2+2 phases. 8+2 for the CPU, +2 for the ram alone. Has an extra 4 pin connector.

Now I would imagine the CH6 uses the same approach. Mainly because it too has a 4 pin connector. So let's assume that it too is 8+2+2. That would be why it is the only motherboard on sale that can run DDR4 at 3200+ speeds.

So basically yet again Asus have a winner on their hands. Gigabyte are off in god knows land with 6 phases on their highest end boards (yet to be completely proven).
 
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Believe me, I know the feeling. Try to hold out for as long as you can. Good info here as well as a few other spots. Give the pros a chance to do some testing. Great folks here.
 
Right ok,

Well thank you all again for your input. With AlienALX, your last post has made me pick the Asus board.

Regarding the 1700 and overclocking i'm not totally sure about buying that chip even to save money. I was pretty set on getting the top dog 1800x, maybe the 1700x for a hundred quid less would be the wise choice for clearing 4ghz.

And to add if these Ryzen chips don't seem to overclock that well, that's a shame. I was hoping the 1800x could hit 4.4 to 4.5 and match the 5960/ 6900k for speeds.
 
Mikeybike said:
Right ok,

Well thank you all again for your input. With AlienALX, your last post has made me pick the Asus board.

Regarding the 1700 and overclocking i'm not totally sure about buying that chip even to save money. I was pretty set on getting the top dog 1800x, maybe the 1700x for a hundred quid less would be the wise choice for clearing 4ghz.

And to add if these Ryzen chips don't seem to overclock that well, that's a shame. I was hoping the 1800x could hit 4.4 to 4.5 and match the 5960/ 6900k for speeds.
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Try to remember these are early chips. They are not going to overclock very well. That will improve with time, though. Gibbo reckons you can get 3.9-4.05ghz out of a 1700 and around 4200mhz out of the 1800x. So it's really not worth buying the X. not for 200mhz.
 
Speaking from experience Asus are definitely the safest bet, I've used Asus boards for years and never had one go bad on me except for my Sabertooth Z97 but that was my fault. However, I've also been using MSI for a few years, both AMD and Intel platforms and they've served me well too hence my choice in buying the MSI board for Ryzen. If that goes bad, then I'll be switching straight to the Asus X370 Prime. Not used Gigabyte motherboards for a long long time so can't really say. (Last Gigabyte board I used involved a Pentium III)
 
AlienALX said:
And I was absolutely right. DO NOT buy the 1700x or 1800x. You are paying a ton load more for 200-300mhz. NOT WORTH IT !
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I wouldn't say that, you are forgetting that the 1700x and 1800x both have a much higher TDP, That alone will see the OC being able to be pushed further than the 1700.

I would wait and see what OC is obtained with the 'x' versions.
 
AlienALX said:
Try to remember these are early chips. They are not going to overclock very well. That will improve with time, though. Gibbo reckons you can get 3.9-4.05ghz out of a 1700 and around 4200mhz out of the 1800x. So it's really not worth buying the X. not for 200mhz.
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There is also the possibility of the opposite too. They may be planning on releasing one or two more higher skews later this year but don't have their binning down yet. Early adopters could win the lottery and get one that will clock very well.
 
Kilbane said:
I wouldn't say that, you are forgetting that the 1700x and 1800x both have a much higher TDP, That alone will see the OC being able to be pushed further than the 1700.

I would wait and see what OC is obtained with the 'x' versions.
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8 Pack has had 4.2ghz out of an 1800x. Not sure what more I could add to that really? unless Gibbo is talking crap?

BigDaddyKong said:
There is also the possibility of the opposite too. They may be planning on releasing one or two more higher skews later this year but don't have their binning down yet. Early adopters could win the lottery and get one that will clock very well.
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Oh yeah for sure man. Lisa Su already came out and said they would not follow Intel's "tick tick" logic and would do their "tocks" properly.

They did well with Bulldozer. 15%, lower TDP and higher clocks.
 
AlienALX said:
8 Pack has had 4.2ghz out of an 1800x. Not sure what more I could add to that really? unless Gibbo is talking crap?
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Not trying to be rude or anything, but giving advice and telling people what to buy when we have NO concrete evidence from review sources, it's premature to be recommending what to buy.. board or cpu.
We do not yet know enough to be doing such a thing.
 
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