Offset Mode Overclocking Starter Guide and Thread

Celty

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For those interested in achieving high overclocks with Sandy Bridge 2500K or 2600K CPU's using Offset Mode to control your voltages, I thought I'd share some information and invite others to post their own experiences and results. Though the typical user of these forums is probably quite technically savvy and sophisticated (in other words - Computer Geeks), I'll start with a brief explanation of Offset Mode and why you might want to use it.

OFFSET MODE AND IT'S ADVANTAGE

Traditionally, when setting Vcore voltages, an overclocker set volts to a fixed value. No matter what load the computer was experiencing, the CPU was fed that voltage. Even if SpeedStep and Turbo modes down-clocked the CPU, the voltage stayed at that manual setting. This is not ideal obviously, since feeding higher voltages all the time - even when not needed - is unnecessarily wearing on your CPU, generates higher temperatures, and wastes energy. The alternative is using Offset Mode.

This allows your Vcore to scale on demand, so that when your computer is idle or lightly loaded such as web browsing, those nasty volts drop when the CPU steps down. For someone like me who runs the computer 24/7, this is like having your cake and eating it too. Maximum performance when actually needed and uber safe voltages and efficiency the rest of the time, all happening automatically.

OFFSET MODE DOWNSIDES


You often read that Offset Mode is fine for mild overclocks, but above 4.4ghz-4.5ghz it does not work. That is something that just is not true as you'll see. I have gotten to a 5.0ghz overclock using this method, at sane voltages. Just for fun I may see what it takes for 5.1ghz if the Vcore demands don't go above what I am willing to go to. There are three issues with Offset Mode. First, it's a bit more complex initially until you get the the hang of it, but nothing that bad. In fact it sort of puts the fun back in overclocking, as you go through what works for you. Second, people that attempt to use "Auto" for an Offset voltage setting tend to get unsatisfactory results. Either the voltage is too high on load, or too low for stability on idle. Last, to get a high overclock stable, you must change more than just the offset. I'll share what has actually worked for me.

SUGGESTED GENERAL APPROACH


Go slow and and start with mild overclocks to get the hang of things before you reach for more demanding overclocks. Take it in small steps, one multiplier increase at a time. A 4.2ghz or 4.4ghz overclock may be a good place to start if you are not experienced at this. Verify everything thoroughly with each change in voltage. I worked myself up to a stable overclock for a multiplier by decreasing or increasing .005 volts at a time. Then boot into Windows, open a good temperature and voltage checker, and see where you are. If the voltage is higher than expected, don't bother stability testing. Go back into bios and step it down. If the initial voltage readings look OK, and the temps are decent, I then use prime95 on blend to test for stability.

Personally, I find with my cooling, a dozen passes successfully run without temperatures climbing is sufficient, but that is up to you. I monitor voltages and temperatures throughout and stop Prime95 if anything is not looking good. More often, because I start out very conservatively on offset voltage, Prime95 or Windows itself crashes. Each time this happens, I bump up the volts by a single increment, and try again. This can take awhile, with a number of crashes, but it really will result in the best eventual outcome. Once Prime95 runs successfully and no other toward events occur, you know you have hit the lowest stable voltage for that multiplier.

I save those settings in an overclock profile in bios at that point. Then whenever I want to change my overclock level, I just load that profile.

IMPORTANT CAUTIONS

Don't rely on software that reports a single CPU temperature. For instance, AI Suite II might tell you that your CPU temperature is 22.0C. OC3D Hardware Monitor or Real Temp will give you a far more accurate reading on each core, and the CPU package. This is usually 10.0C higher than my Asus software shows. Make sure you have sufficient cooling capacity. Don't let those temps soar.

Let your own CPU, motherboard, and cooling tell you what it is capable of – rather than assuming you can overclock to any pre-concieved level.

GETTING TO THE GOOD STUFF


OK, here we go with actually overclocking. I went through much trial and error, and you may have to as well, but I hope I can at least give you some direction. I'd suggest changing all the other settings BEFORE changing your multiplier and Vcore Offset. After that try your first overclock level. Here are what works for me as sort of a "base" Bios configuration, your mileage may of course vary. I begin by loading the optimized defaults with the F5 key, save and reboot. If this works with no problems I re-enter bios and configure as follows, and then reboot again to make sure everything is fine.

(The Bios settings and terminology are for an Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z, other motherboards will have different features and terms.)

Using the Advanced Mode in Bios (Bios Version 0902)
- Extreme Tweaker Tab

Ai Overclock Tuner: Auto

BLCK/PCIE Frequency: 100.0

Turbo Ratio: All Cores Mode

Maximum Turbo Ratio: This will be set to your target Multiplier

Internal PLL Voltage: Auto

Xtreme Tweaking: Disabled

EPU Power Saving Mode: Disabled

Extreme OV: Disabled

CPU Voltage: Offset Mode

Offset Mode Sign: This will be positive or negative depending on your target.

CPU Manual Voltage: Value will depend on your target.

CPU PLL Voltage: 1.850

CPU Performance Settings (Sub-Menu)


CPU Ratio: Auto

Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology: Enabled

Turbo Mode: Enabled

Maximum Power: Disabled

(All other sub-menu items on Auto)

Digi+ VRM (Sub-Menu)


VCore PWM mode: Extreme

Vcore MOS volt Control: Auto

Vcore Load-Line Calibration: 75%

Vcore Switching Freq: Manual

VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350

Vcore Phase Control: Manual Adjustment

Manual Adjustment: Fast

Vcore Over-Current Protection: 140%

THE FIRST OVERCLOCK

Once you have a stable "base configuration" (I save this as a profile), it's time to bump things up. From now on you can probably do all your overclocking by changing just three settings. The Maximum Turbo ratio is where you enter the CPU multiplier, say 43 for a 4.3ghz overclock. For the first overclock I'd suggest working "backwards" from how you'll subsequently do it. By this I mean try a mild overclock multiplier. Leave the CPU Manual Voltage on "Auto". Save and boot into Windows. Check your voltages and temps. Try a prime95 run and assuming it goes alright, it's time to tune a bit.

Your Vcore voltage is probably higher than it needs to be to sustain a stable overclock. Go back into bios and we'll try the first manual setting on volts. Set the Offset Mode Sign to a negative (-). This means the voltage offset you will enter will be subtracted from what the motherboard set automatically. Enter a CPU Manual Voltage value of .005, save and reboot. Check your voltage and it should be lower than the initial value using an Auto setting. Before proceeding wait for your processor to "step down" to 1600MHz. Then re-check the Vcore.

This time you are looking at the Vcore not to make sure it's not too high, but rather that it has not dropped too low. For me, it needs to stay around 0.975 or better. If all is well, try a prime95 run. If it's successful, re-enter bios and lower the voltage another step, to a -0.010, save and retest things. I keep going until either the down clocked 1600MHz Vcore is too low for stability, or on the Prime95, I get instability. Once I find that that level, I bump the volts back up to the last stable value, and we are there. I save that configuration with a name of the multiplier, and then whenever I want that level of overclock, I just need to load it.

GOING ONWARD AND UPWARD

From here it's a matter of increasing the multiplier by one, save and reboot, verify things and test. You may be lucky and not have to increase your voltage offset on mild multipliers, but if the first try is unstable, go back into bios. This time you will need to change the "Offset Mode Sign" to a positive (+), and bump up the Manual Voltage by 0.005, save and reboot, testing things again. Keep bumping it up ward one step at a time until you reach stability, or the temperatures or voltage levels tell you that for your system, that multiplier is too high. Again, I save every successful multiplier as a profile. How high can you go? That is entirely a matter of your particular system, and your own risk tolerance.

I'll share the data for my system at a optimized 3.8ghz, 4.8ghz, 4.9ghz, and 5ghz in an attachment. I would not just plug in these values. Every system is different, these are what I worked up to. I'm also attaching the 5ghz results from OC3D Hardware Monitor (apparently all the attachment space I have).



Overclock Data Summary.JPG

5ghz Idle.JPG

5.0ghz Load.JPG

CONCLUSION

I hope some of you who have not tried Offset Mode overclocking found this helpful. One thing I should note is that the results I show were obtained with full fans and pump speeds. In practice I have my pump and fans controlled by a user profile in Fan Xpert. This gives me very quiet general computing even at a 5Gghz overclock, and automatically bumps up the cooling to whatever level is needed by more demanding use. I'd love to see how others are doing with Offset Mode.

MY SYSTEM


Case: Corsair 650D

Motherboard: Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z

CPU: i7-2600K

Memory: 16 GB DDR3 @ 1600

Power Supply: Seasonic X650

Graphics Card: Still my old BFG GTX260

SSD: OCZ Vertex2 120GB

Hard Drive: F3 1TB

Sound Card: Asus Essence STX

Water Cooling – CPU only Single Custom Loop

Pump: MCP35X on PWM control

Reservoir: MCP35X-Res

CPU Block: XSPC Raystorm

Radiator #1: XSPC EX240 with 2 GT AP15's

Radiator #2: Phobya 200mm with 1 Silverstone AP181
 
Nice guide! I hope more people will start using Offset mode for better efficiency after reading your guide. I know I have.
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Awesome guide, got to 5.0GHz easily
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Hoping I'll pass 24 hours of prime at 1.4v, we'll see. I used to not POST at this voltage/speed, so thank you very much!

Only thing I don't like about offset mode is voltage goes NUTS under linpack; I think I saw 1.44v at one point. Would reducing the overcurrent protection to 120 or 130% fix this?

Just realized I'm a thread-necroing asshole. My bad, guys =/
 
Nice guide, I learned a little more BUT...everytime I try using Offset Mode on my P8Z68-V Pro/2600K system I give up because the CPU Voltage and Temperature are way too high. I have the system set to Manual Mode with the CPU Voltage set to 1.28 and the multiplier set to 45. The system runs Prime95 for 3+ hours and the maximum core temperature is 62C. I have been using this setting 24/7 for 9 months. When I play with the Offset Mode I go beyond that temperature at a 40 multiplier! Also, using Manual Mode CoreTemp says the watts used at 4.5GHz under 100% load is 100+ and at idle (16 multiplier) it drops to around 10 watts. What am I missing?
 
Awesome guide. Made my system operate like I anted it to.

Could you please explain some of the settings you gave here:


Digi+ VRM (Sub-Menu)

VCore PWM mode: Extreme

Vcore MOS volt Control: Auto

Vcore Load-Line Calibration: 75%

Vcore Switching Freq: Manual

VRM Fixed Frequency Mode: 350

Vcore Phase Control: Manual Adjustment

Manual Adjustment: Fast

Vcore Over-Current Protection: 140%
 
But is the processor really 100% stable when idling? Can I suspect any crashes during movies or browsing? I will try this though =) I've been avoiding it, but after this I'll give it a spin!
 
But is the processor really 100% stable when idling? Can I suspect any crashes during movies or browsing? I will try this though =) I've been avoiding it, but after this I'll give it a spin!

When I tried, I found myself needing far more volts to keep it stable under load than manual.

I'm able to get a 4.5ghz overclock on my 3770k at 1.2v more or less at manual mode, whilst on offset I was pushing 1.265v for the same clock and still getting stability issues under load.

For Sandy and Ivybridge, you don't need to push the volts hard at all to get a decent overclock, so I see no need whatsoever for Offset overclocking anymore.
 
I really dont like offset clocking. If you want to save power why overclock in the first place.

Hey even chrome needs 5 gigglehertz
 
Nice guide, I learned a little more BUT...everytime I try using Offset Mode on my P8Z68-V Pro/2600K system I give up because the CPU Voltage and Temperature are way too high. I have the system set to Manual Mode with the CPU Voltage set to 1.28 and the multiplier set to 45. The system runs Prime95 for 3+ hours and the maximum core temperature is 62C. I have been using this setting 24/7 for 9 months. When I play with the Offset Mode I go beyond that temperature at a 40 multiplier! Also, using Manual Mode CoreTemp says the watts used at 4.5GHz under 100% load is 100+ and at idle (16 multiplier) it drops to around 10 watts. What am I missing?

Follow up - I finally updated the BIOS on the Asus P8-Z68-V Pro MB to 3402 and like magic I am able to get a stable 4.5GHZ OC on my 2600K with basically default settings. So... I am now a fan of Offset Mode!
 
Marvelous!

Thank you so much for this guide. My build is over 4 years old now and still going strong! I managed to reach 4.5GHz with my i5 3570k with offset of -0.035V. It has been very good to me and extremely stable. I have stressed the CPU for 3.5Hrs now and I have gotten absolutely no unwanted results, everything has been very positive. My idle temps are 24-30C, max load peak temps 79-86C and gaming temps 55~62C. Vcore hovers at 1.288-1.294V under max load with prime95. Excellent guide. My cooling is corsair H60 (older model).
Again thanks so much for this and I would highly recommend this to anyone.
 
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