OC3D Review Nvidia GTX560 Ti

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id be intrested to know if the evga 570sc would be capable of hitting the hieghts this gtx 560ti does 1050 on the gpu clock wow!!! 570 preformance for £100 less
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This just goes on and on...

Yes, it gets right on the 570 at it's very highest overclock but then overclock the 570 to its limit and it'll just pull away again.

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/...ries/gigabyte/engtx560tidcii2di1gd5gv-n5.html

Not the best price, but still £230 for 570 performance is pretty sweet.
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570's can be had for under £265...

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id be intrested to know if the evga 570sc would be capable of hitting the hieghts this gtx 560ti does 1050 on the gpu clock wow!!! 570 preformance for £100 less
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Do have to say though, for the money compared to normal non ref cards, the Gigabyte SOC is a very good price.
 
Oxidize means exposure to oxygen found in the air nothing to do with fingers though they do contain acid corrodes the copper. Air will slowly reduce quality of the heat transfers though the time it will take and the difference it will have is a little complicated to call.

Copper corrodes extremely slowly in air, unless there is a catalyst which in this instance the oils on your fingers. Also when it comes to copper corrosion it tends to be quite superficial so I doubt it will make too much of a difference,
 
Ok Here are the prices I found for the GTX 560 Ti

EVGA $280.00 (176.23 GBP) free shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130610

Zotac $265.00 (166.79 GBP) $7.56 Shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500190

Here are the new prices for the HD6850

HIS $260.00 (163.63 GBP) after mail-in rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161355

Sapphire $275.00 (173.10 GBP)after mail-in rebate card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102914

That's right, let the price wars begin......like I said before, this is going to be great!

May the two big names in graphics beat each other to a bloody pulp in the name of good value. fighters to they're corners....Ding!
 
Nvidia won't need to drop prices because they know AMD will need to drop the 6970 to like $300; which they can't, only than it will it make sense price to performance wise. Currently Nvidia just offers way better bang for your buck.
 
Nvidia won't need to drop prices because they know AMD will need to drop the 6970 to like $300; which they can't, only than it will it make sense price to performance wise. Currently Nvidia just offers way better bang for your buck.

I think that Nvidia is going to have to do something about price. The stock HD 6950 outperforms the stock GTX 560 ti by almost 20%. The HD6950 can be found online for a lower price than a GTX 560 ti as of today. Further that is the 2 GB version of the HD6950. Yes it's true the overclocking of 560 TI is very impressive. In fact, when overclocked to 1GHz it preforms slightly better than a stock HD6950. That said once the bios is flashed on the 6950 and its effectively turned into a HD6970 the battle is over. The fact is the HD6950 with bios flashed to HD6970 crushes the overclocked GTX 560 ti in almost every way. Basically it is 15% to 20% faster than an overclocked GTX 560 ti for the same price. So if Nvidia wants to remain competitive they will have to lower the price of the GTX 560 ti. I personally think this price war is going to be great for gamers.

On a side note, I am a little concerned about Nvidia's ability to compete on price. the big problem is that the GF114 requires 40% more surface area per chip than the Cayman chips. This of course translates into a nearly linear price difference in fabrication costs of the GPU. Worse, once the slightly reduced yields that are achieved as a result of added complexity are factored in, it is not difficult to imagine Nvidia having difficulty going toe to toe with ATI/AMD on price. Hopefully, Nvidia will find a way to compete because as I have said that is great for enthusiasts.
 
im looking at a couple new cards, should i go 2 gtx 570's or 2 560's?

The 560 Ti's are a way better value, if I where choosing between them I would definitely go for the pair of 560 Ti's. Well hold on a minute what resolution do you plan to run at? I ask because if you are planning to go above 1920x1080 then the 560 Ti's 1GB frame buffer is going to cause some very serious problems. It will begin to slow down at 1920x1200 and will be severely crippled at 2560x1600. Sli will only make the frame buffer problem worse, I am sorry to tell you.

That said, if you are planning on running at 1920x1080 or below then definitely go for the 560 Ti's. The pair will save you approximately $190.00 (119.32 GBP) depending on the currency use. And if you overclock them there will be precious little difference in performance up to 1920x1080. If, as I said, you are planning to run at resolutions beyond 1920x1080 then make no mistake the 560 ti's 1GB frame buffer is not enough. Shame really, because a pair of 560 ti's can be had for $530.00 (332.79 GBP), whereas the pair 570's costs a staggering $720.00 (452.60 GBP). What can you do if you need the larger frame buffer? Well there are the 570's (ouch!). Another option would be to use a single 580. It won't preform as well as the 570's in SLI, but it will handle the higher resolutions and can be had for $510.00 (320.30 GBP) that's 130 quid difference mate. (did I use Quid right?, hope I don't sound like a Jack-monkey).

In any case.....

Wouldn't it be great if there was a way to get the price of a pair of 560 Ti's. The performance of a pair of 570's. A large enough frame buffer to handle 2560x1600 without breaking a sweat. The good news is there is a way to do just that. The bad news is your not going to like it. Anyway let me know if you want to know how to get it done.....

I hope this helped
 
The 560 Ti's are a way better value, if I where choosing between them I would definitely go for the pair of 560 Ti's. Well hold on a minute what resolution do you plan to run at? I ask because if you are planning to go above 1920x1080 then the 560 Ti's 1GB frame buffer is going to cause some very serious problems. It will begin to slow down at 1920x1200 and will be severely crippled at 2560x1600. Sli will only make the frame buffer problem worse, I am sorry to tell you.

That said, if you are planning on running at 1920x1080 or below then definitely go for the 560 Ti's. The pair will save you approximately $190.00 (119.32 GBP) depending on the currency use. And if you overclock them there will be precious little difference in performance up to 1920x1080. If, as I said, you are planning to run at resolutions beyond 1920x1080 then make no mistake the 560 ti's 1GB frame buffer is not enough. Shame really, because a pair of 560 ti's can be had for $530.00 (332.79 GBP), whereas the pair 570's costs a staggering $720.00 (452.60 GBP). What can you do if you need the larger frame buffer? Well there are the 570's (ouch!). Another option would be to use a single 580. It won't preform as well as the 570's in SLI, but it will handle the higher resolutions and can be had for $510.00 (320.30 GBP) that's 130 quid difference mate. (did I use Quid right?, hope I don't sound like a Jack-monkey).

In any case.....

Wouldn't it be great if there was a way to get the price of a pair of 560 Ti's. The performance of a pair of 570's. A large enough frame buffer to handle 2560x1600 without breaking a sweat. The good news is there is a way to do just that. The bad news is your not going to like it. Anyway let me know if you want to know how to get it done.....

I hope this helped

thanks for the input oneseraph, i mean at the moment im only running 1920x1200 but 3d surround does look pretty tasty!!! so some new monitors maybe the next big ticket item. and with the 570's i can keep my option open for 3(or even 4) way sli, but DAYM 1ghz clock?!? and 130 quid is a lot of coin for similiar kit(at current res)
 
thanks for the input oneseraph, i mean at the moment im only running 1920x1200 but 3d surround does look pretty tasty!!! so some new monitors maybe the next big ticket item. and with the 570's i can keep my option open for 3(or even 4) way sli, but DAYM 1ghz clock?!? and 130 quid is a lot of coin for similiar kit(at current res)

Ya, once you make the move to multi-monitor, you will never look back...

I use a pair of LG's at the moment. Around the end of march, I plan to build a new rig. I am thinking of making the jump to a triple monitor setup. The new Asus PA246Q ProArt Series sound pretty good. Hopefully they won't be ridiculously expensive. In any case, best of luck with your setup.

Cheers
 
Copper corrodes extremely slowly in air, unless there is a catalyst which in this instance the oils on your fingers. Also when it comes to copper corrosion it tends to be quite superficial so I doubt it will make too much of a difference,

Yer Wont make huge difference in the first ten years lol. Just feels bit substandard for a luxury style card.
 
@CH4PZ 3D surround isn't really mature yet, so 570s would be better, since SLI won't scale too well so the more powerful GPUs will fair better.
 
What screen size

im at 1920 x 1200 at the moment, but multi monitor maybe an option within a year or so

@CH4PZ 3D surround isn't really mature yet, so 570s would be better, since SLI won't scale too well so the more powerful GPUs will fair better.

yeah i think i will go 570's!! i dont like the thought of not being able to go anywhere with the 560 setup, wheres with 570's i've got a few options, and i will be able to afford it(for a change, lol) cheers for ya help everyone
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but still ya gotta take ya hat off to the baby brother cracking the 1 ton clock speed
 
I'd read some impressive stats, but, well, to be honest till Tommy yumps on a card, tears off its clothes and then tosses it on the rack... I just haven't watched a review. Very nice TTL. Another intelligent, lucid, and human presentation, thank you. And yes, I happied all over my keyboard. YOU OWE ME ...... ANOTHER !
 
They will actually have to cut the price so the performance lines up, not in synthetic benchmarks, but also in gaming benchmarks, so a 6970 needs to drop down to a price that's comparable with a 560 if they want remain competitive.

..Except the 6970 beats the 560 on every review I've seen. In fact, it beats it so thoroughly that the reviewers usually choose to use the 6950, and it still beats the 560 in every http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-review/14 review http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-560-ti-gf114,2845-6.html I've seen http://www.anandtech.com/show/4135/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-upsetting-the-250-market/11 ..except this one.

"At stock speeds" "It walks past the 6950" "walks past the 6970.." I'm not seeing that in any review. Every other review I've read of this card it's a disappointment for it's price. Granted, I'm a US reader and most of these reviews are speaking of the US prices. That doesn't change his assessment of the performance.

I'm a huge Nvidia fan, at the moment. The problems I had with the 5xxx series.. ugh. I don't want to go back to that. Fair is fair however, and the 6950 is the better card. In OC3Ds defense, the charts actually disagree with TTLs assessment in the video. The stock 6970 beats the stock 560 quite handily.

In other words, Nvidia needs to drop the price of the 560 relative to the performance of the 6950.
 
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