silenthill
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name='tinytomlogan' said:
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OC3D Review: nVidia GeForce GTX 460 768MB GDDR5 Review
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thestepster
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do you have any spare pci-e's mate? if so get an 8 or 9 series and that will offload that power to that
Br1t1shB33f
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Nice to see N(shody)a have made something worth while. Only issue is i think the new ATi 6xxx is to close for this card to gain Nvidia a decent market share in the midrange card market.
thestepster
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name='AMDFTW' said:
well i cant see y it wouldn't its not something they wouldnt engineer in that was a neat feature
thestepster
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name='Br1t1shB33f' said:
this is prob now the best bang for buck card out there and i predict there's been a lot of ppl waitin on it i personally havent but its came as a nice surprise for me as in an avid folder and ati cards fail supremely bad at this
Br1t1shB33f
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yeah its nice that something is available for all. i guess ATi only care about gaming and thats not a bad thing i guys.. as Nvidia cards seem to do alot more than just game. I suppose it what ur into other than gaming if anything at all. But hopefully as a current ATi fan (loyalty not 100%) it would be nice to see if this move by nvidia makes ATi make some Strides in the 6xxx series.
alienware
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name='thestepster' said:
Folding isn't something a lot of people do. You can do it with any Nvidia card (so for example a 9800GT).
Nvidias problem right now is ATI are in the lead. Nvidia can try and overtake all they like (and probably will !) but ATI have been in a 4-5 month head start and lead dude.
I can absolutely bloody bet that they knew the 460 was coming and already have the counter attack fully in place. Why? because they should be more than ready. Even a simple price drop of the 5850 immediately gives them a better card for the same money. I also promise you that even though the 5 series were very reasonably priced ATI have been charging a premium for them before now because they had absolutely and utterly no competition AT ALL. They said jump, the paying customer asked how high.
Things are very very different now though
Br1t1shB33f
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name='AlienALX' said:Folding isn't something a lot of people do. You can do it with any Nvidia card (so for example a 9800GT).
Nvidias problem right now is ATI are in the lead. Nvidia can try and overtake all they like (and probably will !) but ATI have been in a 4-5 month head start and lead dude.
I can absolutely bloody bet that they knew the 460 was coming and already have the counter attack fully in place. Why? because they should be more than ready. Even a simple price drop of the 5850 immediately gives them a better card for the same money. I also promise you that even though the 5 series were very reasonably priced ATI have been charging a premium for them before now because they had absolutely and utterly no competition AT ALL. They said jump, the paying customer asked how high.
Things are very very different now though
So very true... and as the 6 Series is coming dropping the price wont hurt them much.. infact it will give them more publicity before the launch of their new cards which will be more value able then a markup in the short term. ATi has the opertunity to tighten the grip on Nvidias balls and make sure it isnt easy to loose that grip.
Im happy for both companies to do well TBH... as this will drive prices down and make for some interesting developments.
thestepster
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name='AlienALX' said:Folding isn't something a lot of people do. You can do it with any Nvidia card (so for example a 9800GT).
Nvidias problem right now is ATI are in the lead. Nvidia can try and overtake all they like (and probably will !) but ATI have been in a 4-5 month head start and lead dude.
I can absolutely bloody bet that they knew the 460 was coming and already have the counter attack fully in place. Why? because they should be more than ready. Even a simple price drop of the 5850 immediately gives them a better card for the same money. I also promise you that even though the 5 series were very reasonably priced ATI have been charging a premium for them before now because they had absolutely and utterly no competition AT ALL. They said jump, the paying customer asked how high.
Things are very very different now though
you would be surprised by the size of the folding@home network feb last year they surpassed the 5 petaFLOPS milestone so thats another another 17 months on and its only going to have got more massive prob wont be long till they hit the 6 has its growing at a crazy rate
to give this one weight the current fastest super computer only does 1.75 petaFLOPS so simple maths shows that the f@h distributed computing networks is 2.8 times more powerful
alienware
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Infact lest we forget that on actual release on actual day one the 5850 was about £230. Then all of a sudden Nvidia showed no response and no retalliation and all of a sudden actual units were actually £270+.
Coincidence? I think not.
ATI basically poked the big doggy with a stick. Then they realised the big doggy was locked in a cage so poked it some more. When they realised they weren't going to get bitten they knew they were in full control. Hence the price ramps.
Coincidence? I think not.
ATI basically poked the big doggy with a stick. Then they realised the big doggy was locked in a cage so poked it some more. When they realised they weren't going to get bitten they knew they were in full control. Hence the price ramps.
alienware
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Folding is awesome. It really is. It's completely selfless and all for a good cause. Sure there are a lot of people doing it but do you really live under the conception that our world is so nice and kind that enough people would buy Nvidia cards for no other reason that folding?
A folding rig is just that. You can't really use it for anything else. Do you really think enough people would selflessly set up an entire PC and then let it eat electricity 24/7 and it be enough for Nvidia to beat off ATI?
Sadly folding has shown how unreliable Nvidia cards are if anything else. I read the Folding pages of Custom PC near on every month and the ammount of people saying "I have had to stop folding because my 2xx card died".
Unlike CPUs GPUs do not have the technology in place to combat the stresses of being ran 24/7. No GPU has ECC, no GPU can recover from a serious error without being rebooted. The GPU chip itself has already been pushed to the thermal limits by the manu. Look at the overclock overheads in say an I7 920. Then look at the overclock overheads ina GPU.
Most people buy gaming cards for playing games on dude, but I do really admire your attitude
A folding rig is just that. You can't really use it for anything else. Do you really think enough people would selflessly set up an entire PC and then let it eat electricity 24/7 and it be enough for Nvidia to beat off ATI?
Sadly folding has shown how unreliable Nvidia cards are if anything else. I read the Folding pages of Custom PC near on every month and the ammount of people saying "I have had to stop folding because my 2xx card died".
Unlike CPUs GPUs do not have the technology in place to combat the stresses of being ran 24/7. No GPU has ECC, no GPU can recover from a serious error without being rebooted. The GPU chip itself has already been pushed to the thermal limits by the manu. Look at the overclock overheads in say an I7 920. Then look at the overclock overheads ina GPU.
Most people buy gaming cards for playing games on dude, but I do really admire your attitude
thestepster
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your wrong there again mate just cause your gpu's are folding doesnt mean the pc is useless i currently have 3 cards folding in here and it still runs fast as hell, and i have bought 6 cards (all run utterly flawless 24/7) and then the 2 gtx460's when i get my old rig sold and they will fold 90% of the time
folding@home is more stressful than gamin but then you have to look on things there most popular client is the gpu and thats taken 95% of it then then the ps3 slips in there with poorer numbers than an ati card then the cpu client is great but dependin on platform/overclock isnt so good
then they dont have to suffer then the whole hot/cold cycle and not all cards run on there thermal cycle none of mines are near at the top of that my 9800 ran for a few days without problem at 90 degree's (fan fudged up and wouldnt spin very fast while a new cooler was comin for it
yeah i get most of them do go into gamin rigs but there is are utterly 10's of thousands of them out there to make most of the 5 petaFLOPS of the network
folding@home is more stressful than gamin but then you have to look on things there most popular client is the gpu and thats taken 95% of it then then the ps3 slips in there with poorer numbers than an ati card then the cpu client is great but dependin on platform/overclock isnt so good
then they dont have to suffer then the whole hot/cold cycle and not all cards run on there thermal cycle none of mines are near at the top of that my 9800 ran for a few days without problem at 90 degree's (fan fudged up and wouldnt spin very fast while a new cooler was comin for it
yeah i get most of them do go into gamin rigs but there is are utterly 10's of thousands of them out there to make most of the 5 petaFLOPS of the network
siravarice
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So almost 480 performance for £280 is you got these in SLI. Very nice job.
silenthill
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name='siravarice' said:
one of my mate's has bought two gtx 460 but with the 1GB memory and we've been testing all night most of our tests have been on CRYSIS WARHEAD with a res of 1920X1200 2XAA and in gamer mode detail level the AVG FPS for the 460's in sli was 57 fps, so then we tested on my system but with only one gtx 480 and the AVG FPS was 52 and we used a single Radeon 5790 stock clocks and we got a AVG FPS of 60 all the tests were done using (Fraps) and playing for about half a hour so I'd say that two 460 in SLI are very near the HD 5790 but that's only in CRYSIS, but if I was someone thinking of a purchase I'll wait for the GXT 490 which is actually two 460's in SLI on one card because the power consumption will be lower and also lower heat & noise levels in your case.
alienware
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Crysis is ATIs achilles heel. It always was and it always will be because Crysis was Nvidia sponsored. It utilises pretty much every aspect of Nvidia cards.
Try something like S.T.A.L.K.E.R : Call of Pripyat if you want to be fair to ATI.. I would be very interested to see the results from that.
Try something like S.T.A.L.K.E.R : Call of Pripyat if you want to be fair to ATI.. I would be very interested to see the results from that.
Elemental_Dragon
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For the money and overclocking capabilities, I think this a nice little card for those -not-so-extreme- gamers - definitely bang for buck. But with so many revisions, watercooling a tad out the question sadly I think with this 1 
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silenthill
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name='AlienALX' said:
OK mate I'll do it for you, we are meeting today me and my mates after dinner so we will be testing in the evening the only problem I have with S.T.A.L.K.E.R : Call of Pripyat is that it crashes a lot on my 480's something to do with nvidia driver and enabling tessellation and it seems that there has been similar problems with lot of people on the web I have emailed NVIDIA also GSC Game World the Developer of S.T.A.L.K.E.R but have had no answer till now but worse comes to worse I'll disable tessellation and do the test. I'll keep you posted later tonight.
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