The latest variant of the HD6970 comes to us via ASUS. Does their voltage tweak BIOS enable extra performance?
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OC3D Review ASUS EAH6970
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Rastalovich
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Something still doesn't seem right. A colleague is still scratching his head here.
But looking at it from my pov, I've seen that issue with using an overclocking tool before. You ramp the slider as high as it'll go and you feel you could take it further - and it just won't allow it. It happened
to me recently using afterburner on a 8400 (which is besides the point), but you feel the 'tool' is being told the up/low limits. Perhaps the bios is the key.
If it were mine (I mean donate to me to play with), I'd delve into the bios fiddling menu like atitool/afterburner has and try and massage the limits. From memory tho, if the tool doesn't know the card's bios, it will limit what you can do. I'd still fiddle with it tho.
This is besides the point tho. Off the shelf, something still aint right to me.
Voltage tweak and a oc limit ? Nah, definitely not.
I hate to harp on about it, but those bios versions from the ref card and this would be interesting. I'm going to see if there's any revisions coming out in the future too.
But looking at it from my pov, I've seen that issue with using an overclocking tool before. You ramp the slider as high as it'll go and you feel you could take it further - and it just won't allow it. It happened
to me recently using afterburner on a 8400 (which is besides the point), but you feel the 'tool' is being told the up/low limits. Perhaps the bios is the key.
If it were mine (I mean donate to me to play with), I'd delve into the bios fiddling menu like atitool/afterburner has and try and massage the limits. From memory tho, if the tool doesn't know the card's bios, it will limit what you can do. I'd still fiddle with it tho.
This is besides the point tho. Off the shelf, something still aint right to me.
Voltage tweak and a oc limit ? Nah, definitely not.
I hate to harp on about it, but those bios versions from the ref card and this would be interesting. I'm going to see if there's any revisions coming out in the future too.
Nice review Tom
If you look dude Bryan wrote it
DSV-UltraGL
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finally the ASUS!
man, i need some more info!
1- what is a the max voltage in smart doctor?
2- why didn't you use MSI's AfterBurner for OC;ing? ppl are getting higher clocks with that, max i saw @ stock voltages was 980mhz Core, so maybe up the voltage using Smartdoctor and get to 1Ghz (World FIRST!!) using Afterburner??
3-What are the temps? this one has aluminum cover, wanna see how much this one is cooler! before and after OC please!
i know am asking alot, but am barely holding back waiting for those to be in stock (USA), if no diff than other ones (plastic cover) my wait is over! thanx in advance!
EDIT:damn 19 sec diff pyro!
man, i need some more info!
1- what is a the max voltage in smart doctor?
2- why didn't you use MSI's AfterBurner for OC;ing? ppl are getting higher clocks with that, max i saw @ stock voltages was 980mhz Core, so maybe up the voltage using Smartdoctor and get to 1Ghz (World FIRST!!) using Afterburner??
3-What are the temps? this one has aluminum cover, wanna see how much this one is cooler! before and after OC please!
i know am asking alot, but am barely holding back waiting for those to be in stock (USA), if no diff than other ones (plastic cover) my wait is over! thanx in advance!
EDIT:damn 19 sec diff pyro!
Rastalovich
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i'd like that voltage tweak bios
any chance of a dump please Bryan?
[edit] did you try the "EnableUnofficialOverclocking" feature of Afterburner to get past the limitations of Catalyst Control Center?
OT
I liked Afterburner for a while, but it appears to be selective on cards it likes. I've subsequently reverted to ATITool v0.26 (for the card I was messing with) and it allows changing of limits.
siravarice
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Really nice review here guys
But I would love to see just this versus a 570. Just the two, nothing else, in a big head to head.
For me currently thinking about upgrading, these are the two best performers for the money, is it possible to set up such a test?
For me currently thinking about upgrading, these are the two best performers for the money, is it possible to set up such a test?
edgari0kas
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something wrong with that voltage tweak slide i guess it will be fixed soon , also as i pointed out on youtube .
Really nice review here guysBut I would love to see just this versus a 570. Just the two, nothing else, in a big head to head.
For me currently thinking about upgrading, these are the two best performers for the money, is it possible to set up such a test?
If I'm not mistaken they've already done reviews on both GPU's you mentioned...just watch or read them both separately and compare.
I am extremely let down with the new 68-6950/70's. To me it seems that ATI is purposely confusing and misleading people with the number branding. To me they're just new versions of the 5750 cards and not worth replacing my 5970 with
murphy7801
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Not says that these cards are bad just feeling bit underwhelmed compared to the gtx580/570 though still like to see gtx 570 sli to compare the 6970 crossfire
alienware
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I wouldn't. It simply wouldn't be fair.
I've been benchmarking my 470 OC @ 710mhz (I've heard they can go 800+ pish) and tbh? the 6970 is barely any better in any of the benchmarks I have ran on a non OC cpu. And, the 6970 is maxed out. I would lay a guess I could actually beat the 6970 in pretty much everything if I pushed harder.
Vantage
Heaven
Putting the 6970 against a 570 would be rather pointless. The 570 would rip it limb from limb considering that the 570 is basically a 480 in a cool quiet package. The 570 actually overclocks too.
Important Edit. Why is the PCIE lane on the test rig running at 8x?
murphy7801
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I wouldn't. It simply wouldn't be fair.
I've been benchmarking my 470 OC @ 710mhz (I've heard they can go 800+ pish) and tbh? the 6970 is barely any better in any of the benchmarks I have ran on a non OC cpu. And, the 6970 is maxed out. I would lay a guess I could actually beat the 6970 in pretty much everything if I pushed harder.
Vantage
Heaven
Putting the 6970 against a 570 would be rather pointless. The 570 would rip it limb from limb considering that the 570 is basically a 480 in a cool quiet package. The 570 actually overclocks too.
Important Edit. Why is the PCIE lane on the test rig running at 8x?
more interested to see how current gen crossfire scales against current sli with using the gtx 580 because thats way off the charts
alienware
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I still think that even though Crossfire scales better (I've no problem in accepting that because it does
) that the 570s in SLI would still win. Thing is let's face it the two aren't even in the same price bracket. I mean, SLI 570 works out to about £520 whilst a pair of 6970 are going to touch on £600.
I'm still very concerned as to why the PCIE lanes in the test on this card here are running @ 8x. Whether there was a problem with the driver or something? don't know. But, the 6970 in this review just doesn't seem to perform as it should. I know for a fact that ATI were gunning for the 470 and 480 with the release of the 6950 and 6970 and progressively the 6950 was designed to edge out the 470 and the 6970 to edge out the 480. Obviously where they came unstuck was the 5 series GPUs. They just weren't planning on that and it was too late to go back to the drawing board and start again.
Very similar to the 5850 and 5870 story really. Early samples of the 470 and 480 were bloody awful. Then all of a sudden ATI release the 5850 and 5870 and then there's a huge delay before Fermi finally releases and they are actually faster (though hot and loud and use loads of power).
TBH I would still rather have a single 580 than 6970CF or 570SLI. Mind you, that is just my personal preference
I'm still very concerned as to why the PCIE lanes in the test on this card here are running @ 8x. Whether there was a problem with the driver or something? don't know. But, the 6970 in this review just doesn't seem to perform as it should. I know for a fact that ATI were gunning for the 470 and 480 with the release of the 6950 and 6970 and progressively the 6950 was designed to edge out the 470 and the 6970 to edge out the 480. Obviously where they came unstuck was the 5 series GPUs. They just weren't planning on that and it was too late to go back to the drawing board and start again.
Very similar to the 5850 and 5870 story really. Early samples of the 470 and 480 were bloody awful. Then all of a sudden ATI release the 5850 and 5870 and then there's a huge delay before Fermi finally releases and they are actually faster (though hot and loud and use loads of power).
TBH I would still rather have a single 580 than 6970CF or 570SLI. Mind you, that is just my personal preference
murphy7801
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See alot talk no real hard evidence I like to see some test so can draw my own conclusions thats why I want see sli gtx 570 so can actually know whats best for me and my Christmas bonus
