OC3D Review: Asus 9600 GT

[Rastalovich]

That`s a fair comment. But I pity the fool who forks out for a single card, then in a few months buys another one - when they can w8 those few months and buy a card better than both.

Tbh tho, if they were dropped in your lap, I can see some1 giving it a go.

 

[RedPlague]

I have to choose between a Club 3D Radeon 3850 OC (720Mhz Core /1800 Memory) with a Zerotherm heatpipe cooper cooler (www.pccomponentes.com/CLUB_3D_RADEON_HD_3850_512MB_OVERCLOCKED_EDITION.html) and the Asus GeForce 9600GT in the review (www.pccomponentes.com/ASUS_GEFORCE_EN9600GT_HTDI_512M_PCI_E.html)

The pages in the links are in Spanish, but it's more for the pictures.

Now for the tricky part: the 3850 is 87€ and the 9600GT is 115€.

According to the review I should get the ATI, what do you think?

Side note: I want to keep the VGA for about 1 year, sell it on eBay for about 10-20€ less than a better and newer card and get another card (for 10-20€ more). I have just got this idea because I own a 8600GTS and I hope I can sell it for 60-70€, so with about 20€ more I could get (far better) performing 3850. (I have seen a x1600Pro DDR2 sell for 32+shipping on eBay so my hopes are really up)

 

[w3bbo]

For a tiny little more I'd go for the 8800GT which beats both cards hands down. If you are stuck between the 2 cards you suggested then the 9600gt is the way to go.

 

[Rastalovich]

8800GT is silly cheap atm.

 

[RedPlague]

The cheapest 8800GT is 155€ (almost double the price of the OCed 3850) so it's not exactly "dirt-cheap" to me. I realize it is a better choice, but it's out of my budget.

I don't plan to further OC any card (as I think I gain little and risk burning it).

the 9600 is 28€ more and (in the review) worse than the OCed 3850. Are there any specific issues with the ATI card? I've seen reviews and a stock 3850 is roughly 10% slower (in real games) than a 9600GT (please correct me if I'm wrong), which is consistent with te results of this review.

 

[Rastalovich]

Dirt cheap relatively, considering the release was around £200.

8800GTX/Ultra are dirt cheap too, older tech tho. Original pricing and performance compared to what they are now. £250 or so ?? something like that.

 

[ali_james]

Over here the price difference is so small between the 3850/9600GT/8800GT that the 8800GT is the only one thats really value for money in the range, the rest we can't really recommend. If you can shop around a bit more in Spain and see if you can get one any cheaper, I'm not sure.

What else have you got in your rig or planned build?

I think the 3850 would more than do the job, as it shows it hits around 60 a second in Bioshock which is a pretty demanding game still.

I don't think you'll be able to sell on any of these cards for as much as you plan in a year though. I fancy there's going to be so many about on ebay and other places as they really are the next big thing before a top top end card, 9900 or whatever.

Cheers!

 

[RedPlague]

I have searched a lot and these are the absolute cheapest I have found so far (the fact that both are from the same shop is merely a coincidence). The prices are a bit high compared to the US.

Current (lowest) prices of the boards:

3850 OC 720/1800 106€ / £81

9600GT ASUS 115€/ £90

8800GT 155€/£120

(all are 512MB models)

Edit:

After much consideration I have gone with 9600GT because http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?p=262789#post262789

 

[lesso]

you should run some more tests

when you compared the 9600gt to the 3850 you didn't compare sli / crossfire benchmarks as sli in the new nvidia card give around a 60% increase in performance which is well above the 3850's crossfire.

just another enthusiest :nono:

 

[FarFarAway]

It's pretty hard to run SLI or Crossfire tests when we don't get given two of each card for launch day

Perhaps that's a review for future

 

[Rastalovich]

when you compared the 9600gt to the 3850 you didn't compare sli / crossfire benchmarks as sli in the new nvidia card give around a 60% increase in performance which is well above the 3850's crossfire.

just another enthusiest :nono:

Or u just buy a high end single card instead of 2 midrangers and have zero SLI/xfire issues with anything.

?

 

[Black_ice]

I have to choose between a Club 3D Radeon 3850 OC (720Mhz Core /1800 Memory) with a Zerotherm heatpipe cooper cooler (www.pccomponentes.com/CLUB_3D_RADEON_HD_3850_512MB_OVERCLOCKED_EDITION.html) and the Asus GeForce 9600GT in the review (www.pccomponentes.com/ASUS_GEFORCE_EN9600GT_HTDI_512M_PCI_E.html)

The pages in the links are in Spanish, but it's more for the pictures.

Now for the tricky part: the 3850 is 87€ and the 9600GT is 115€.

According to the review I should get the ATI, what do you think?

Side note: I want to keep the VGA for about 1 year, sell it on eBay for about 10-20€ less than a better and newer card and get another card (for 10-20€ more). I have just got this idea because I own a 8600GTS and I hope I can sell it for 60-70€, so with about 20€ more I could get (far better) performing 3850. (I have seen a x1600Pro DDR2 sell for 32+shipping on eBay so my hopes are really up)

Hello, i got the 9600gt from asus in pccomponentes too, i like nvidia more than ati, not a fanwhore but i like em more xP,

i sold my XFX 7950gt 512mb for 120€ on eBay 3days ago, so i think you could get a good price for your one if your lucky :yumyum:

oh and btw, from stock clocks (and 9600 overclocks fairly better than 7950... and also has shader independant overclocking), 9600 gives 100fps in the situation that 7950 gives 42fps (cod4 wo antialiasing), and on crysis it gives 30-40fps (very high dx9 with cuban ultima sword configurator) where 7950 gave 13-18, so your upgrade will be good even if ya have to spend more than me xP all @ 1280x1024,

One question i have for the experts here, idk the answer, Nvidia 9600gt has 64 stream processors (aka half a 8800), ati 3850 has 320 stream processors, doesnt that mean more electrical power consumition? (aka the cheap becomes expensive :/)

 

[RedPlague]

Hello, i got the 9600gt from asus in pccomponentes too, i like nvidia more than ati, not a fanwhore but i like em more xP,

i sold my XFX 7950gt 512mb for 120€ on eBay 3days ago, so i think you could get a good price for your one if your lucky :yumyum:

oh and btw, from stock clocks (and 9600 overclocks fairly better than 7950... and also has shader independant overclocking), 9600 gives 100fps in the situation that 7950 gives 42fps (cod4 wo antialiasing), and on crysis it gives 30-40fps (very high dx9 with cuban ultima sword configurator) where 7950 gave 13-18, so your upgrade will be good even if ya have to spend more than me xP all @ 1280x1024,

One question i have for the experts here, idk the answer, Nvidia 9600gt has 64 stream processors (aka half a 8800), ati 3850 has 320 stream processors, doesnt that mean more electrical power consumition? (aka the cheap becomes expensive :/)

I think I saw your board (and thought who on earth can buy it at that price)... I know it's (a lot) better than my 8600GTS and I thought less people are going to buy my card.

I have bought the 9600GT because the store rised the price of the 3850 to 109€ ... so for 6€ more I got the 9600GT (now they have the 3850 at 88€, which is a competitive price, better reflecting it's performance).

The 320 stream processors are actually 64 processors directly comparable to Nvidia's (taking into account what they do) and 256 simpler processors (that only do basic operations like multiply and add, aka MAD). On top of that the ATI cards are lower clocked (they have the speed of the core if I am not mistaken... so that's avout half the frequency of a 8800/9600 card) and are fabricated with a 55nm process, whereas Nvidia uses a 65nm process.

All in all, ATI and Nvidia have different stream processors that are pretty difficult to interpret. (see my thread for a more in-depth explanation http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?t=22569 ... the title sucks, but the main body has some good information).

The power consumption is not that different on the two cards.

 

[Black_ice]

thx for info xP

 

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