FarFarAway
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Been waiting for the OC3D to take a look at the 8800 GTS 512mb G92?
Well I've been working hard
Take a look!
Well I've been working hard
Take a look!
OC3D Review: Asus 8800 GT 512 and XFX 8800 GTS 512 - G92 shootout
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Rastalovich
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Great insight into the higher end of the gpu spectrum.
I have to be fair, even tho u`ve got a 1 to 4 positioning, I don`t think there`s that much in it for any of them. I know the Ati slides in the rankings, but it does show itself to be a fine card.
An interesting comparison would have been performance versus costing, seeing as they`re as close as they appear to be.
I`m a bit at odds with the oc results too. I simply can`t achieve the memory overclock on my GT without it having fits. But I can clock the gpu to around 720 (from 670).
What would impress me is some1 buying the cheapest GT, putting it under water, and claiming back those clock hertz with their superior cooling. Sounds nice.
Suprizes me a bit tho that the GTS isn`t launched as a bigger performer. Although pricewize, it does seem to start from stock where the GT limit starts. Leaving u further to climb
Nice review m8, think every1s doing the "going to bed early to get up early" trick
I have to be fair, even tho u`ve got a 1 to 4 positioning, I don`t think there`s that much in it for any of them. I know the Ati slides in the rankings, but it does show itself to be a fine card.
An interesting comparison would have been performance versus costing, seeing as they`re as close as they appear to be.
I`m a bit at odds with the oc results too. I simply can`t achieve the memory overclock on my GT without it having fits. But I can clock the gpu to around 720 (from 670).
What would impress me is some1 buying the cheapest GT, putting it under water, and claiming back those clock hertz with their superior cooling. Sounds nice.
Suprizes me a bit tho that the GTS isn`t launched as a bigger performer. Although pricewize, it does seem to start from stock where the GT limit starts. Leaving u further to climb
Nice review m8, think every1s doing the "going to bed early to get up early" trick
Thing is though there is a BIOS voltmod for the 8800GT that GREATLY increases its overclockability. If there isn't one for the 8800GTS I see them both reaching high limits but so far the 8800GT seems to OC better. With good cooling and the volt mod this thing easily passes 800mhz core, I've seen some at 850+.
What you also go to look at as well is shaders, they seem to be the key thing atm if the shaders OC much better on the 8800GT, which I guess they kinda should since they could simply lock the worst performing ones to get it top out better, it could impact performance in certain titles a lot.
Nice review though I was surprised the 8800GT didn't clock more, there wasn't a heat issue was there?
It should also be said about the supposed problems of the memory modules on the 8800GT, seems that long term use of the memory at 2ghz+ and it brakes. Thats why some companies like Zotac use better memory modules for their cards.
What you also go to look at as well is shaders, they seem to be the key thing atm if the shaders OC much better on the 8800GT, which I guess they kinda should since they could simply lock the worst performing ones to get it top out better, it could impact performance in certain titles a lot.
Nice review though I was surprised the 8800GT didn't clock more, there wasn't a heat issue was there?
It should also be said about the supposed problems of the memory modules on the 8800GT, seems that long term use of the memory at 2ghz+ and it brakes. Thats why some companies like Zotac use better memory modules for their cards.
FarFarAway
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The GT was a little hot yes, but I will never change the cooling or take off the heatsink prior to running any tests. I test every card as it would be when it appears on your doorstep
Volt-modding is not part of the overclocking testing as the percentage of users who do that is small and it voids any warranty you have.
An overclock is dependent on what RAM is used, what cooling is like and also what luck you get with the silicon...the overclocking gods didn't smile on me this time
@Rast: I agree, the ATI card is a great card as I said in the ATI review, but this review was for these two cards. Having said that: would I buy the HD3850 personally? No, I'd go for an 8800 GTS 512mb G92 or an 8800 GT 512 G92 It's simply not fast enough with every game, I'm afraid.
Volt-modding is not part of the overclocking testing as the percentage of users who do that is small and it voids any warranty you have.
An overclock is dependent on what RAM is used, what cooling is like and also what luck you get with the silicon...the overclocking gods didn't smile on me this time
@Rast: I agree, the ATI card is a great card as I said in the ATI review, but this review was for these two cards. Having said that: would I buy the HD3850 personally? No, I'd go for an 8800 GTS 512mb G92 or an 8800 GT 512 G92
It's simply not fast enough with every game, I'm afraid.FarFarAway
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DX10 settings high with no AA
Great review!
I'm looking to get a new graphics card within the next 3 months or so, and I'll spend up to about £200 (although £180 is more preferable). What would you recommend? I was thinking an 8800GT (which this review makes me think would be a good choice!) or, well, something else, like the ATi 3850.
Thoughts?
What a crap excuse! I have 37.2kb/s. Where there's a will there's a way damnit!!
I'm looking to get a new graphics card within the next 3 months or so, and I'll spend up to about £200 (although £180 is more preferable). What would you recommend? I was thinking an 8800GT (which this review makes me think would be a good choice!) or, well, something else, like the ATi 3850.
Thoughts?
name='Hyper' said:Shame I cant view it as 128k is painfully slow
What a crap excuse!
I have 37.2kb/s. Where there's a will there's a way damnit!!Wow, that was quick!
You mean the new GTSs or old GTSs? And by last longer, do you mean futureproofness or physically last longer?
I just looked on Dabs and Ebuyer for GTSs (where I would nearly certainly buy from), and they were all >£200 (apart from a Dabs Extra Value one).
I've just been doing some research and came across the Sapphire HD3870.
I've never been a fan of Sapphire - Always been an XFX/BFG person. Sapphire just seem cheap, and cheap scares me. I've read a lot of reviews (well, 3) though, and each time it's got 9/10. So, it seems pretty damn good, and £40 cheaper than the XFX 8800GT. Plus it has higher clock speeds, and DDR4.
I said I would go up to £200, which I will, just ATM I have nothing, so the less it is the sooner I can get it, and £40 cuts off a couple weeks at least.
HD3870 - http://www.dabs.com/productview.asp...1137&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11137,415920000
8800GT - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138713/show_product_specifications
Thoughts?
EDIT: I've just heard about ATi drivers being crap. Are they? There are always custom drivers I suppose, like those at TweakForce.com.
Sorry about the thread-hijack BTW, I'll probably take it to a new thread in a minute. Post here for now though.
You mean the new GTSs or old GTSs? And by last longer, do you mean futureproofness or physically last longer?
I just looked on Dabs and Ebuyer for GTSs (where I would nearly certainly buy from), and they were all >£200 (apart from a Dabs Extra Value one).
I've just been doing some research and came across the Sapphire HD3870.
I've never been a fan of Sapphire - Always been an XFX/BFG person. Sapphire just seem cheap, and cheap scares me. I've read a lot of reviews (well, 3) though, and each time it's got 9/10. So, it seems pretty damn good, and £40 cheaper than the XFX 8800GT. Plus it has higher clock speeds, and DDR4.
I said I would go up to £200, which I will, just ATM I have nothing, so the less it is the sooner I can get it, and £40 cuts off a couple weeks at least.
HD3870 - http://www.dabs.com/productview.asp...1137&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11137,415920000
8800GT - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138713/show_product_specifications
Thoughts?
EDIT: I've just heard about ATi drivers being crap. Are they? There are always custom drivers I suppose, like those at TweakForce.com.
Sorry about the thread-hijack BTW, I'll probably take it to a new thread in a minute. Post here for now though.
Obviously the new GTS
By last longer I mean it has the extra stream processors which will hold back a future upgrade just a little bit more You certainly notice the difference in Crysis imo.
I'm not sure if it's just that card but we've tested 2 of XFX's Xtreme 8800GTs and they both produced jagged coloured artifacts and had to be sent back faulty. However in comparison we've tested two of the new Xtreme GTS from XFX which will set you back £30 more and they performed flawlessly.
Personal opinion is to go for the GTS but if cash is really that tight then go for the GT. Unfortunately these are both the best value cards at the moment if you want a good price/performance ratio.
By last longer I mean it has the extra stream processors which will hold back a future upgrade just a little bit more
You certainly notice the difference in Crysis imo.I'm not sure if it's just that card but we've tested 2 of XFX's Xtreme 8800GTs and they both produced jagged coloured artifacts and had to be sent back faulty. However in comparison we've tested two of the new Xtreme GTS from XFX which will set you back £30 more and they performed flawlessly.
Personal opinion is to go for the GTS but if cash is really that tight then go for the GT. Unfortunately these are both the best value cards at the moment if you want a good price/performance ratio.
FarFarAway
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Glad you lads liked the review and that it was some use to you.
If you have a screen under 1680 x 1050 then a GT is the way to go. If you're over that then get a GTS imo
If you have a screen under 1680 x 1050 then a GT is the way to go. If you're over that then get a GTS imo
4th paragraph after the 1st pic on the 1st page:
All this leads me to think that the G92 8800 GT should be a rather fast GPU and possibly a match for the 8800 GTX. Be aware though, it's not going to touch it's higher end predecessor the 8800 Ultra, as Nvidia's flagship model still has over 60% more memory bandwidth and 40% more pixel fillrate.
Should it say:
All this leads me to think that the G92 8800 GTS should be a rather fast GPU and possibly a match for the 8800 GTX. Be aware though, it's not going to touch it's higher end predecessor the 8800 Ultra, as Nvidia's flagship model still has over 60% more memory bandwidth and 40% more pixel fillrate.
Don't mean to be pedantic but as its actually the name of the card I thought I'd mention it .
1 more too:
Of course, we have to mention that the G92 is fabricated by TSMC on a 45nm process.
65mn??
Thats just above the table on comparing all the cards.
Now... Back to reading the review
All this leads me to think that the G92 8800 GT should be a rather fast GPU and possibly a match for the 8800 GTX. Be aware though, it's not going to touch it's higher end predecessor the 8800 Ultra, as Nvidia's flagship model still has over 60% more memory bandwidth and 40% more pixel fillrate.
Should it say:
All this leads me to think that the G92 8800 GTS should be a rather fast GPU and possibly a match for the 8800 GTX. Be aware though, it's not going to touch it's higher end predecessor the 8800 Ultra, as Nvidia's flagship model still has over 60% more memory bandwidth and 40% more pixel fillrate.
Don't mean to be pedantic but as its actually the name of the card I thought I'd mention it
.1 more too:
Of course, we have to mention that the G92 is fabricated by TSMC on a 45nm process.
65mn??
Thats just above the table on comparing all the cards.
Now... Back to reading the review
Ok finished the reading very nicely done Kempez... Must have taken a fair while??
I think what surprised me the most was how close all 3 were.. I knew the GTX still beat the GT but I thought the gap was bigger... Its such a small gap to try and fit the new GTS into. They obviously didn't want it to come out and trash the more expensive GTX but didn't want it out and get whipped by the cheaper GT...
Oh yeah 1 more correction too
Conclusion
It's actually wrong to separate these two cards based simply on pure performance along.
Enjoyed reading that.. So again nice one!
very nicely done Kempez... Must have taken a fair while??I think what surprised me the most was how close all 3 were.. I knew the GTX still beat the GT but I thought the gap was bigger... Its such a small gap to try and fit the new GTS into. They obviously didn't want it to come out and trash the more expensive GTX but didn't want it out and get whipped by the cheaper GT...
Oh yeah 1 more correction too
Conclusion
It's actually wrong to separate these two cards based simply on pure performance along.
Enjoyed reading that.. So again nice one!
FarFarAway
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Thanks Bungral
All corrected
And yep, it did indeed take a long time
All corrected
And yep, it did indeed take a long time
