WYP
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Nvidia's Turing GPU may be a dedicated cryptocurrency mining card
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
If Nvidia can sell these at a fairly middle of the road price and have their GeForce GPU's priced higher, This may put potential Crypto miners off buying GeForce if the cheaper Turing cards can do a better job of mining, Hopefully.
TheF34RChannel
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The original source (it was the author's thought) is wccftech.com, so add salt 
it's why I didn't post it tbh.
it's why I didn't post it tbh.
Avet
Active member
I don't blame miners for GPU prices, or shortage. People are investing in business, and retailers are milking the situation. Problem also lies on manufacturers. They didn't deliver, and i have the suspicion that mining craze was discreetly pushed buy red and green team.
If nvidia is splitting mining from gaming cards, and i mean on architecture level, we could see market stabilization regarding GPU prices, and availability.
If nvidia is splitting mining from gaming cards, and i mean on architecture level, we could see market stabilization regarding GPU prices, and availability.
who is buying the most part of the GPU's nowadays?? Cryptominers. why would you think that they would sell gpus for miners cheaper than for gamers with more demand??
That doesn't make sense at all. gpus for cryptomining will be sold far more expensive than gaming (but in return they will offer more performance).
That doesn't make sense at all. gpus for cryptomining will be sold far more expensive than gaming (but in return they will offer more performance).
Avet
Active member
Price is not the determining factor. Mining GPUs will have much bigger hash rates than gaming ones, and they will be probably more power effective. No matter will they be more, or less money than gaming GPUs if they offer better hash/watt/price than gaming ones there will not be a conflict between target audiences.
Layer Cakes
New member
Yup. I'm expecting them to be fairly stripped down. No IO, basic cooler design, etc with a higher hash rate at roughly the same price.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I'll be honest and admit that I didn't get what the Nvidia slogan had to do with the crypto name...
I read it as Meant to be Played probably about 10 times before I realized it said mined
Now that's good marketing
I read it as Meant to be Played probably about 10 times before I realized it said mined
Now that's good marketing
ByteMyAscii
New member
Far from discreetly by AMD.
They even released a driver optimised for mining.
Because that is AMD's strength, because on gaming it can't.
Supply wouldn't have solved the problem though.
If someone is willing to pay 3 times the MSRP - 3x the supply (which is simply unrealistic) would only see 3 times the cards snapped up at MSRP.
A greater supply of GPU's at MSRP is only going to increase the demand from miners.
It is going to take some decline in the popularity of mainstream GPU's for mining to change things.
A better value prospect for miners is certainly going to be a step in the right direction there.
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MacLeod
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I wonder how much this will help if at all. Miners are in some kind of rabid buying frenzy where they're buying entire stocks out as soon as they hit the shelves. If Nvidia comes out with a mining specific card, it could slow down the onslaught but only until miners wipe those stocks out too then they'll start wiping out normal GPU's. Even the ones that remain will still be 300% higher priced than they were to begin with.
I'm honestly starting to think that this won't change until mining crashed again.
I'm honestly starting to think that this won't change until mining crashed again.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
That's just more reason to buy. People will buy into it when it's at a super low value so once it takes off again they make their money.
Cryptocurrency atm is a dying value. Not just in stocks because it's lower than a month ago but because the sole purpose people are using it is to make tons of bitcoins to turn it into real physical currency. That's not a survivable or strong enough backing for cryptocurrency. It needs to have tangible value where you can actually use it but atm it's so few places(stores and etc), governments, and banks backing it that if it stays this way it will die off.
ByteMyAscii
New member
Hence why I think it is a step in the right direction rather than a solution.
There are GPUs that are better or worse value, but they still sell if they can turn a profit.
As you say one card with inadequate supply will not solve it.
It is going to take I suspect some drop in value to the point where the electricity cost is too high for anything but an ASIC.
Turing if these assumptions are true is at best one of the most efficient options.
It still won't remain the only option.
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TheF34RChannel
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I'm still skeptical this will be a mining card but it seems it has been taken as a fact now again, the original 'story' came from wccftech.com and was a mere thought from the author, and now the web is full with/of it Nvidia architecture names never held any relation to the product usage, and it may not now either. In the end all we know is one website shouted Ampere and another shouted Turing...
@NeverBackDown you nailed it in the head! And here's to hoping!!
again, the original 'story' came from wccftech.com and was a mere thought from the author, and now the web is full with/of it Nvidia architecture names never held any relation to the product usage, and it may not now either. In the end all we know is one website shouted Ampere and another shouted Turing... @NeverBackDown you nailed it in the head! And here's to hoping!!
AlienALX
Well-known member
Trust me, it is very very easy to stop people mining on GPUs. All it takes is a couple of tweaks to the driver, and bios, and it would be impossible. I am really hoping Nvidia carry out such a strategy and gaming cards become useless for mining.
As an example, Nvidia do not allow SLi on cards with different VRAM (so the 8800 GTS and etc) or do they allow SLi on X4 lanes. Well some guy wrote a driver that fooled the card into thinking it was on a X58 board, and also removed the limiter for the lanes.
Every couple of weeks Nvidia would release a new driver, breaking it completely, and he would have to basically start from scratch. Hyper SLi died, Any SLi died, as did the Physx hack which allowed you to run a Nvidia card for Physx if you were running a Radeon 5000 series.
All of which was basically patched out very quickly and then it became a game of cat and mouse.
I watched a Linus video recently where he had this 1060 3gb that would not mine until the bios was flashed. Nvidia could put a stop to it tomorrow morning, but of course they won't unless they have a card they can sell to miners. No one is going to turn away customers, I just hope and pray that they can cater to both.
Kaapstad
Active member
This ^
Another example is benching with 4 way SLI, NVidia only allow it on some benchmark software and it must be beyond 1440p resolution.
For example you can bench Heaven 4 @2160p in 4 way SLI but not @1080p, if you try and run at the lower resolution all you get is a black screen and you need to reboot to get out of it.
Check out the lack of 4 way Pascal scores here.
https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/3dmark+11+3dmark+score+performance+preset/version+1.0.132/4+gpu
AlienALX
Well-known member
IDK why the guy who wrote HyperSLi stopped. Maybe because he was threatened with legal action, or maybe because he just got sick of fixing it all of the time Nvidia broke it.
But at one point it was so good you could SLi completely odd cards. Not just things like say, a 768mb 460 and a 1gb 460, but any card from the same family worked quite well (Fermi 460 and 560Ti, for example). Then one day he just vanished
It's a shame, because it also used to enable 4 way SLi and so on for benchers to use. It could be possible that Nvidia basically locked out the exploit he was using "Hard" (IE in the GPU core itelf).
Like I said, they could easily do that with mining. The reason ATI cards were so crap at folding is because ATI basically couldn't be bothered to try. In recent years? they now fold every bit as good as any Nvidia card.
It needs to support what it's doing. If the drivers don't support mining it will just bomb like you say.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
I was actually considering getting a 2nd Titan Xp for SLI but really can't be bothered with SLI problems.
