Nvidia RTX 3080 Founders Edition Review

[ImprovizoR]

on tech stuff he really knows what he is talking about

And this is irrelevant because Nvidia knows marketing and they pretty much have a monopoly. Not a single thing that this guy said makes any difference whatsoever. Ampere will still sell and make a ton of profit to Nvidia. They have no real competition. They have no incentive to be better than they are. Every other detail pales in comparison to this fact.

 

[AlienALX]

And this is irrelevant because Nvidia knows marketing and they pretty much have a monopoly. Not a single thing that this guy said makes any difference whatsoever. Ampere will still sell and make a ton of profit to Nvidia. They have no real competition. They have no incentive to be better than they are. Every other detail pales in comparison to this fact.

So the reason not to educate yourself and know what is going on is to be ignorant and say things like "It won't make any difference etc etc".

I disagree. If more people used their brains instead of their wallet Nvidia would be forced to change how they do things.

But you are right, human stupidity always wins.

 

[ImprovizoR]

But you are right, human stupidity always wins.

The market for GPU's is pretty big. Nvidia does a crappy thing almost every generation and it never makes a difference. Even people who know exactly what Nvidia does still end up buying their products. So not even they care. People who want or need a new GPU are not gonna sit through a 32 minute video. That guy's channel is essentially an echo chamber of AMD fanboys and people who can't afford a high end Nvidia GPU. Actual buyers might watch a few benchmark videos and that's it. They don't know and they don't care. Never did and never will.

 

[KingNosser]

Well if the 10% turns out to be true on the 3090, AMD have a real chance at actually beating Nvidia, while you may all think that's not able to happen remember they have been top before sure AMD have had a bad run of luck for a long time but they have a history and it's not like they have always been the underdog.

I don't think you call a product in house the Nvidia killer for no reason or marketing that states leadership performance sure it could all be a pipe dream, but this time i think there is something to it and if im dead wrong feel free to pull me up on it.

I've not had a AMD card for a long time I've brought plenty of generations of Nvidia cards, but i'm not a fan of either company really i just go for the best price that offers the best performance and right now sure that is Nvidia cause they put the cards out first had a short amount of production time i've heard they only really started mass production in August.

we'll know soon enough but there are plenty of YouTubers that are utter fan boy's over nvidia cause amd haven't really done well in any zone until recently same as Intel been on top for a fair while, but it's in my view all about to change.

Worst case i see with navi cards is very similar performance to nvidia meaning most will still go nvidia due to software stack.

I think this is the first time in a long time where it really won't matter which brand you go with on CPU or GPU your going to get good performance either way, the times when one is way ahead of the other i feel is long gone now.

 

[Warchild]

So the reason not to educate yourself and know what is going on is to be ignorant and say things like "It won't make any difference etc etc".

I disagree. If more people used their brains instead of their wallet Nvidia would be forced to change how they do things.

But you are right, human stupidity always wins.

I hate it when people throw out comments like this. You can still educate yourself, but choose not to follow through...

World is going to hell, yet we sit here pining over power consuming luxuries. Everyone here knows we need to be more environmental yet I can guarantee about 50% of us choose not to care even though they full well know the issues and what can easily be done to resolve it.

Has nothing to do with education. Its about choice.

 

[23RO_UK]

I hate it when people throw out comments like this. You can still educate yourself, but choose not to follow through...

World is going to hell, yet we sit here pining over power consuming luxuries. Everyone here knows we need to be more environmental yet I can guarantee about 50% of us choose not to care even though they full well know the issues and what can easily be done to resolve it.

Has nothing to do with education. Its about choice.

Never truer words, we're currently in the middle of a global pandemic, personally I'd rather donate funds to medical research over a new generation of GPU's in the here and now - Consumer luxuries don't mean squat if you or those you love are dead.

Reality check boys and girls.

 

[ImprovizoR]

Has nothing to do with education. Its about choice.

Pretty much. For instance, I would never put a GPU that draws more than 250W into my system. That's just insane. The first thing that I look at when I'm buying a new GPU is not the performance. It's the power consumption. Nobody needed to teach me that. It's what I personally care about first and foremost.

 

[NeverBackDown]

The amount of negativity on this forum lately since the 30 series announcement is just... astounding.


Can we just not get so worked up over luxuries and materialistic things?

 

[Dawelio]

The amount of negativity on this forum lately since the 30 series announcement is just... astounding.

Can we just not get so worked up over luxuries and materialistic things?

Not to be that guy, but in all honestly, I both agree and disagree with your statement... I agree with that it has become a lot more negativity and toxic on here, but I disagree with it has been since the 30 series announcement. The athmosphere isn't the same as it used to be.

Unfortunately, I feel that lately, this forum has become more and more negative overall. Which is one of the reasons I'm not as active as I used to be. I have over the last few months started to scour for other forums.

But this is just my personal view and feeling. I stick around cause I like Mark's news articles, I go here on a daily basis to keep myself up to date on new stuff.
By the way, good work on this front Mark. Kudos to you dude!

 

[Warchild]

Never truer words, we're currently in the middle of a global pandemic, personally I'd rather donate funds to medical research over a new generation of GPU's in the here and now - Consumer luxuries don't mean squat if you or those you love are dead.

Reality check boys and girls.

Im not taking the moral high ground here. Im no better. I just really dislike people accusing others of ignorance because they choose a path that is not logical to them without knowing one iota of that person.


and yeah NBD. Its crazy how much negativity is going on. You would think Nvidia is the first corporation ever to market and plan a launch like this. I can understand the frustrations of those who tried to make a purchase. But alot of the anger is coming from users who have no intention of getting a 30series at all.

My biggest concern on the 30series and I really hope TTL proves it false are the leaked benchmarks of the 3090. I do find it unrealistic to be a small increase over the 3080. It doesnt quite make sense to be marketed as a prosumer card like some state. And given its monstrous size increase, its alot of card for such little gain when ignoring price and only looking at components.

I still have one promised to me at quite a good deal, but well I don't see it coming anytime soon. I can be patient though.

 

[KingNosser]

Well I'm in the undecided area, i think the 3000 series are decent cards.

I think when looking at the specs of the 3090 there is a difference but tbh it's mostly vram not a big gap between them and the 3080 really, more shaders don't seem to mean huge gains, we'll see.

 

[Warchild]

Well I'm in the undecided area, i think the 3000 series are decent cards.

I think when looking at the specs of the 3090 there is a difference but tbh it's mostly vram not a big gap between them and the 3080 really, more shaders don't seem to mean huge gains, we'll see.

Im the same. I was all in on the 3090. I wanted to to hop right on the early adopter and then focus on other components which are showing age now. But after the leaks, im skeptical. If those benchmarks are true, im skipping the series entirely (or at least on these initial offerings). I'm not interested in the 3080.

 

[KingNosser]

I think the better card will be the 3080 20gb if and when it comes out, it's never good to be an early adopter, always better to wait let the dust settle, i mean the 3090 will be stronger it's a given maybe 20% like kaap said idk really but it's a lot of money for a card always better to know for sure.

I mean even if i had the money it's way out of my league, but even the 3070 while I could jump for it, after nvidia's marketing and seeing how that turned out with the 3080 not so sure, but also i can take into account early drivers cards always improve so that's another thing.

I'm not saying the 3080 is in any way bad, but it's not twice the performance of the 2080 like nvidia said in the launch stream, otherwise it's a good card.

I don't really have a choice I need a card but i don't want to decide until i've seen them all.

 

[looz]

Would be just uncouth to get excited about new GPUs on a tech forum.

 

[23RO_UK]

Would be just uncouth to get excited about new GPUs on a tech forum.

I would hardly call most of the content of this thread excitement about the 3xxx series @looz lol

Thank you for bringing about a laugh or two none the less

 

[trawetSluaP]

On topic, is the FE still the go to card for a waterblock considering the the lack of PL across all cards or do you guys still think it's worth it to go AIB + block?

 

[WYP]

On topic, is the FE still the go to card for a waterblock considering the the lack of PL across all cards or do you guys still think it's worth it to go AIB + block?

You need to go AIB for a "reference" PCB. Founders needs a custom water block like the fully custom aftermarket models.

TBH, with stock levels being what they are, I'd take whatever RTX 3080 I could get if the pricing isn't inflated.

 

[AlienALX]

On topic, is the FE still the go to card for a waterblock considering the the lack of PL across all cards or do you guys still think it's worth it to go AIB + block?

Go with whatever you can get a block for. However, be careful as some may not even get blocks.

 

[Warchild]

You need to go AIB for a "reference" PCB. Founders needs a custom water block like the fully custom aftermarket models.

TBH, with stock levels being what they are, I'd take whatever RTX 3080 I could get if the pricing isn't inflated.

it could be profitable later down the line if stocks are still like gold dust. Especially those wanting to step up later.

Wouldnt call it scalping but it happens sometimes.

 

[trawetSluaP]

Go with whatever you can get a block for. However, be careful as some may not even get blocks.

I've got the FTW3 pre-ordered, however, normally got with FE cos of the reference board which doesn't really exist now.

I know the FTW3 has a high PL but seems to make very little difference this gen unless I start faffing with the vbios...

EDIT: No announcement for a FTW3 block from EK at this time. Might be the deciding factor