WYP
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Nvidia confirms its RTX 50 series performance gains when DLSS Multi-Frame Gen is excluded.
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Nvidia reveals RTX 50 series performance without Frame Generation
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AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Great that you included the power efficiency chart. Helps us to see that Blackwell hasn't increased much.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
33% extra performance for a 25% price increase on the 5090 vs the 4090, That is terrible. The days of performance increase for the same price are long gone.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
This is pathetic and in line with my previous thoughts. They hardly gain performance per/Watt. They just rely moreso on increasing TDP instead of architectural improvements.
This just confirms why they had to make a new connector in my opinion. Make it easier to increase TDP.
Worst part is two generations in a row have had hardly any major improvements yet AMD is still behind.
This just confirms why they had to make a new connector in my opinion. Make it easier to increase TDP.
Worst part is two generations in a row have had hardly any major improvements yet AMD is still behind.
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Dicehunter
Resident Newb
AMD's issue is for years they were doing experimental tech with the Fury series, Vega etc... and it was all a colossal waste of time and money.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
I edited my post to reflect what I meant. Stupid autocorrect.
That's probably why they are still behind. That's how bad those investments were.
AlienALX
Well-known member
It's not the raster part that munches power. It's the AI, I mean *cough* RT parts.
These are no longer gaming cards and haven't been since Pascal.
AMD in theory are not behind. Not in raster. They left an awful lot out on the 7000 cards and said and I quote "no one wants £2000 GPUs."
Well, not from them any way. But, had they gone hell for leather then and now I am pretty confident they could have led on raster. They did with the 6950xt vs the 3090. That's why we got a 3090TI but not a 4090TI.
It's like I said elsewhere but really no one needs a 5090. Especially if they have a 4090. Won't stop Nvidia who will sell them hand over fist. AMD would never sell one £2000 GPU no matter how good and they knew it. Look how long 6950XT etc were still available after the 7000 cards launched.
KingNosser
Well-known member
There the reality that we all knew seems somewhat fruitless to even watch any of the reviews when we already know the facts.
They are going to have some kind of nda in these review samples that state push dlss4 like it's a shanty town paved with gold.
So hard pass on the whole lot myself.
Plus with udna being the actual upgrade outside of fsr 4 viewing which we've already seen seems unless the 9070 is way beyond expectations well skipping the generation
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They are going to have some kind of nda in these review samples that state push dlss4 like it's a shanty town paved with gold.
So hard pass on the whole lot myself.
Plus with udna being the actual upgrade outside of fsr 4 viewing which we've already seen seems unless the 9070 is way beyond expectations well skipping the generation
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AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
How many have tested DLSS properly? I've not experienced it in real life so I'd love to hear your thoughts. I only have the opinions of others to go by. From what I can tell, most seem to be only use it when it is absolutely necessary, in games like Cyberpunk with RT enabled. And most much prefer upscaling rather than frame generation. So I honestly have my doubts about how popular this architecture will be. If people ACTUALLY used DLSS and ACTUALLY liked it, then it would be great. But how many do?
KingNosser
Well-known member
Well for me fsr can be useful with frame gen in cyberpunk generally demanding games see no reason otherwise to use that or upscaling all depends on the game for me and to be completely honest zero reason to go above the refresh rate of you're monitor it's not to say it can't be useful.
I guess some people just turn it on for everything and don't mess around with settings.
Me I'd always rather have pure performance and rendering regardless is why i get annoyed about marketing hardware in that way if amd ends up following suit by avoiding talking about raw performance I'd be just as annoyed.
Also that resident evil bench is the only one that shows raw and that's not even a demanding game in terms of RT so in a game like cyberpunk you're going to see even less of a difference in terms of uplift.
So why don't they show it just put out the numbers across the board in all ways in terms of raw uplift vs dlss and the frame gens not as if they don't know or havent tested it just weak and really annoys me cause it'll all come out in the reviews so why hide it yeah marketing try to gain hype get early birds that didn't watch a review that's the reality here.
I guess some people just turn it on for everything and don't mess around with settings.
Me I'd always rather have pure performance and rendering regardless is why i get annoyed about marketing hardware in that way if amd ends up following suit by avoiding talking about raw performance I'd be just as annoyed.
Also that resident evil bench is the only one that shows raw and that's not even a demanding game in terms of RT so in a game like cyberpunk you're going to see even less of a difference in terms of uplift.
So why don't they show it just put out the numbers across the board in all ways in terms of raw uplift vs dlss and the frame gens not as if they don't know or havent tested it just weak and really annoys me cause it'll all come out in the reviews so why hide it yeah marketing try to gain hype get early birds that didn't watch a review that's the reality here.
Dicehunter
Resident Newb
A lot have tested DLSS and a lot like it, It's especially good at cleaning up aliasing, Now as for frame gen that's up in the air, It's been tested extensively especially by the likes of Digital Foundry but it's very much a love it or hate it thing.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Sorry, I meant frame gen. Nvidia confused me with their naming schemes. DLSS 2 and its variants looks good and people seem to like it. It's frame gen I was wondering about.
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