WYP
News Guru
The GPU shortage is far from over.
Read more about Nvidia's expectation that the GPU shortage will continue until Q3 2018.
Read more about Nvidia's expectation that the GPU shortage will continue until Q3 2018.
Nvidia reportedly told Massdrop to expect GPU prices to increase until Q3 2018
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AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I'm so glad I bought my GPU when I did.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Yeah I can't believe I actually got lucky for once. Makes a sodding change !
Dawelio
Active member
I suppose I am as well, even if it was only a week or so ago.
Tolemac
Active member
^^ this I'm glad I bought my 1080 for £425 back in May even though some forumites made negative comments about it. But as Farage would say "who's laughing now"
. I could honestly sell it for more
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scubasteve
Member
skeletor dams it all
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Memory manufacturers like Samsung have invested billions into new facilities that fabricate memory modules, but they won't become active until later this year and next year. Nvidia have no control over this. There's no point in them increasing production of Pascal GPUs if the memory supply can't keep up. Plus Nvidia likely have a new architecture available to release later this year and may not want to ramp up production for a 2 year-old architecture.
Kaapstad
Active member
If NVidia do release a new architecture this year I think it will be quite limited with only mid range cards (slightly faster than 1080 Ti) available for a long time as there will be no pressure on the company to sell the more expensive to produce high end cards.
I don't think this will change until NVidia find they can no longer sell all they can produce and need to release higher end cards to generate sales. The first half of 2018 is going to be pretty boring when it comes to GPU innovation.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
They would release a high end card first. They would make more off limited stock.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Are you on the same wavelength as to what's considered 'high-end'? Some wouldn't consider X70/X80 high-end while others would.
You don't give buyers a choice that you don't want them to make. If Nvidia came out with midrange first, plenty of people that would have otherwise bought the top shelf card will instead buy midrange, parasitizing margins for Nvidia. Releasing the top shelf later would also cause more buyers to analyse if the top shelf card makes sense as a performance/price decision, which it mostly will not, causing additional loss for Nvidia.
https://www.myce.com/news/samsung-invests-massive-18-billion-new-memory-chip-fabs-82219/
Steve @GamersNexus says Ampere isn't a thing, and he has been saying it for a couple months. We shall see.
Steve @GamersNexus says Ampere isn't a thing, and he has been saying it for a couple months. We shall see.
AlienALX
Well-known member
That is South Korea, not China.
China have basically had enough of depending on others, and are building their own fabs. Samsung will need to retaliate to remain one of the richest companies around.
China are going to be an ultra power, the likes we have never seen. They will make "super" powers like America look tiny, unless Trump can deliver.
Due to our greed and laziness we have closed all of our factories and gone to China for almost everything.
That's why we're screwed, because we can't just say "well screw you we will just make our own" because we no longer have the means.
China have basically had enough of depending on others, and are building their own fabs. Samsung will need to retaliate to remain one of the richest companies around.
China are going to be an ultra power, the likes we have never seen. They will make "super" powers like America look tiny, unless Trump can deliver.
Due to our greed and laziness we have closed all of our factories and gone to China for almost everything.
That's why we're screwed, because we can't just say "well screw you we will just make our own" because we no longer have the means.
Samsung invested almost $30 billion domestically in new fabs last year. They invested another $6 billion in fab upgrades. They also have a huge stake in plants in China, with a plant built in 2014 in Xi'an, and a second plant underway there now, and are slated to invest another $22 billion+ this year, as they seek to become the worlds largest semi conductor supplier this year. China is in the middle of building fabs to enter NAND production, and to nominally compete with Samsung. (to the tune of about $70 billion so far) Given China's history, it will take them years to make that viable, let alone competitive with Samsung, and I rather doubt it ever will become so. Actual Chinese NAND will probably start life as the budget option for companies that do not have the budget or the need for cutting edge memory. There is indeed a market for cheap, low end RAM, but I seriously doubt we will be seeing it in mainstream graphics cards or as RAM in in anything other than sub $500 PC builds. China does have a lot going for it, with its government as the driving force and main investor. Alliances with Microsoft, AMD, Global Foundries and scores of other companies means that China will indeed grab a large slice of the semi conductor market. Scary stuff, but also beneficial in the long run, just as AMD's Ryzen has benefitted even the staunchest of Intel fanboys. As China moves into actual CPU and SoC is where I get concerned. Given the government's firm hand and access to everything they invest in and allow to be produced, I will have strong concerns about chinese devices and components in my household.
TheF34RChannel
New member
"Reportedly"...? What does that even mean? I think they/someone made it up. It may come true, it's a 50/50 chance after all 
it sure looks like it though!
In my view (names are hypothetical):
Professional: Titan, Quadro, Tesla etc.
Enthusiast: 2080 Ti
High end: 2070, 2080
Mid range: 2060, etc.
Yeah, and yet halve the internet still chatters on about Ampere so they're definitely not keeping up
it sure looks like it though! In my view (names are hypothetical):
Professional: Titan, Quadro, Tesla etc.
Enthusiast: 2080 Ti
High end: 2070, 2080
Mid range: 2060, etc.
Yeah, and yet halve the internet still chatters on about Ampere so they're definitely not keeping up
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