Nvidia holding back their own cards

[KING_OF_SAND]

Before I get started let me say I am a huge fan of Nvida, and I have a gtx580sc from EVGA and LOVE it. But what I noticed with Nvidia cards is the ratio between core performance and vRAM is WAY OFF. Example, the 580 has MORE than enough power to run BF3 and MAX settings with the AA blasted at 1080p but is held back by its 1.5gb of RAM. This should not be, they should have made the 680 with at least 3gb. I understand their are going to be non-reference cards that will have more RAM but as for reference this is uncalled for, especially sense Nvidia picked up the ability to have Surround displays.

This is what I liked about AMD, while the core performance may not be as high as Nvidia they make up in VRAM. It wont be long when the 7950 out performs even the 680 in games when they start using more than 2gb or vRAM.

This is just my 2 cents.

 

[Stevo]

It does seem a bit weird that they don't bump up the ram just a little bit, and I don't think the non-reference ones will have a boost in it either, but at the same time I've not had 1 game even max out my 1.5GB on my 580 yet so 2GB seems fine to me, maybe AMD just like future proofing. like there whole PCI-E 2.1 slots a little while back that never really took off. I'm staying a fanboy, no real reason, I just always have been a fan

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

The more RAM is more for those with ultra high resolutions. Now that we have GPU chips that can make close to real effects and DX11.1, vRAM usage is going to jump. BF3 already takes 1.5gb, imagine a game that looks twice a good as that. I give it 8 months when we see 2gb usage on just 1920x1080. Not to mention AA also takes up vRAM.

 

[S_I_N]

agreed it does seem kinda redundant to stay with lower vram when its been proven adding more gives us more in games. I noticed everytime i went up in vram the games used it more. and i know its been said that xfire or sli doesnt double ram but its weird at times i see memory usage while gaming at like 3115mb when i'm using dual 2GB cards.

 

[KING_OF_SAND]

agreed it does seem kinda redundant to stay with lower vram when its been proven adding more gives us more in games. I noticed everytime i went up in vram the games used it more. and i know its been said that xfire or sli doesnt double ram but its weird at times i see memory usage while gaming at like 3115mb when i'm using dual 2GB cards.

I think the reason you vRAM usage goes up when you put a card with more RAM in the AF goes up with it, thus using more RAM.

 

[airdeano]

damn these computers are smart. (not to be a smart ass). i think these "hack" progs are just touching the surface of

what actually we have available to us. i believe we are only playing in the 10-15% of the capabilities. but it beknown

i bet it gets a lot more complex the further we can open the "values" up. hell overclocking with its minimal adjustments

kicks a lot of ass and most settle on an understated overclock, because it was hard for them to figure out.

but on the otherhand, there are more melt-downs because someone got a lil greedy wih the multi or voltage and let

all the magic smoke out and now they don't have a toy anymore.

i've always thought computers were dumb as rocks, but they can do mathematics really fast. and everything a computer

sees is a math problem and some formula or algorythmn is the key to solving the equation. increase its VRAM now it

can do s'mthin' else plus what is older capabilities are. kinda like VCACHE.. make it do it faster, more voltage please.

we move that slider in the "appz" and think "aww hell it's only .500v more and more is always better, what could it do?"

"hey where'd my screen go!!!" sometimes it is best left to the knowledgable and brave to tweak. me i like magic smoke.

airdeano