Why would you need to SLI 590's
Better frame rates when using 3D, ultra settings, and a buttload of mods.
Skyrim for example... when using uGridsToLoad=13 my framerates drop a LOT. But it looks so good.
nVidia GTX680 Review
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Better frame rates when using 3D, ultra settings, and a buttload of mods.
Skyrim for example... when using uGridsToLoad=13 my framerates drop a LOT. But it looks so good.
BeholdtheMightySpoon
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I'm a bit dissapointed just a gtx 580, with mild performance boost, and low power draw. But I'm with Tom. It seems fishy that this is spose to be the big hoss of gtx 6xx series and it's just slighty faster than the 580.
TheOneHalf
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Still happy it did not eat my 7970 for breakfast haha, the videoram is a really big concern of mine.... I am curious how it handles 5760*1080 BF3 gaming, I find I can't run ultra on my OC'ed 7970 but high runs fine... I'll wait a bit for prices to drop then get another 7970 and overclock that boy to its limit as well ^^
It was the same thing when Fermi was released too. I had to wait awhile before I could fold on my 470. The price of early adoption...
dugdiamond
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DarthDudo
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I WANT NOW!Too bad they're sold out everywhere....
Here you go MSI one
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=57559&agid=1156
mrDMxtreme
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i am very jelly right now, enjoy it
daantjuh44
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Lovely card !
Am I the only one who thinks the stacked 6pins will be a problem for watercooling?
You are always left with a two slot card.
Am I the only one who thinks the stacked 6pins will be a problem for watercooling?
You are always left with a two slot card.
I said this right away (when we saw the connectors) , stupid action NvidiA !
I honestly can't believe this is the replacement for the 580! It has way cooler features and I like where they are going with it, but it seems Nvidia releases what they had to to keep use happy and just barly steal the crown from AMD.(which is debatable)
Most reviewers are calling the 680 the new king, but with a features gone(compute). This keeps AMD in some of our hearts because we get basiclly the same performance(with better compute) for a little more money.
Tom called them basically the same, buy what you want, you have love his honesty and unbiased opinion. For most of us this would seem 100% true, but I think he is right, something is fishy with the 680.
The 580 was a true king of it's time! Fast and powerful, when needed, cool and quiet when not. It had so much going fot it nothing could touch it, which put an instant target on its back!!! To beat it you needed dual GPU,x-fire, or SLI, but your power bill went way up, and your wallet was lighter. To use less power or be cheaper, it was hard to beat. So I gotta give props to the old King....because it will be the mark from which all will be measured from ,for a while, anyway....
580 vs 680 the 680 wins in almost every way except it's computing, the 580 destroys it....folders, wait.. when the price drops on the 580s buy them all up, or buy used 580s...there will be alot of them soon.
The reason has to be twice the CUDA cores at a higher clock for $500 would kill off the TESLA/QUADRO card sales, when the 680 could almost do what a $2000 card could do..a sly business move for Nvidia!!
I think they are being smart though, release the 600 series now, minus compute at current 500 series prices and 90% of us wouldn't be the wiser, because It's benchmarks and game performance is better than the 580, than once they got all our money and sales start droping, the all new 700 series!!!(aka.600 series with compute for alot more money). For some this would be a good thing, if you don't need compute buy the cheaper 600 gaming cards, but bad for those that want it, because I'm sure you will be forced to pay a higher price for it. Just another notch inbetween type of cards, from workstation cards. High end gamming and ultra class consumer cards.
I think thats why there is extra solder points on the cards for different PCI-E power. There is clearly a spot for a 8 pin next to the top 6 pin, which the higher end boards may need when they boost compute performance, add a second GPU, or just maybe its there for a killer overclocking single slot water cooled configuation.... who knows.
7970 vs 680 not so clear....
gaming- buy the card that performs better in the games you play at the price you can afford.
overclocking- I think the 680 will be way better for people who don't mess about with their video cards that much because it basically has INTEL Speed Step, when it's loaded down(all cores active) it runs at "stock clock", but if you throw an old game that is less demanding(lesser cores active) it overclocks itself for better performance.
The 7970 will be better for those who like messing with their card overclocks, I can see where GPU Boost would confuse or piss off people trying to overclock the 680.
Power-the 680, across the board uses less power. Where it beats the 7970 and has lower power, it is the clear watts/performance winner. In cases where the 7970 beats the 680, but the 680 still uses lower power, it's bascically a tie, you have to choose based on other things.
One place where the 7970 wins out,and it affects alot of us,is Idle power!! AMD cards have zero core(the thing keeping Tom from Quad x-fire, till he got it sorted). If you sit in front your computer messing with it all the time, it doesn't matter, but if you leave your machine on all the time or walk away from it alot, the AMD cards will sense when your monitor turns off and cut it's core power to only a few watts.
Basicaly I see this as the same thing:
Nvidia=higher base clock and overclocks when needed, always using less power.
AMD=needs more power to do the same work but underclocks when not needed, to make up for it's power wasteing habits.
kinda sounds familiar...dosen't it?
Price=let the battle begin.. so WE can win alittle!!
personally, I'm kinda steering away from the 680, until I see where they go next. I can see alot of you with single 580 or even 570s switching to 680s for a small bump in performance(losing compute), than AMD responds with a 7990 single GPU card to regain the crown , and Nvidia releases a 685,690, and a 695, leaving the people who just bought a new 680 with a mid grade card??? but ofcorse this will force the price down and you can just pick up one or two more for 2 or 3 way SLI.
I went the expensive single GPU route first time around, this time I went with 2 cheaper cards in SLI(although they cost more than one single card they also beat it peformance wise), they are brand new, so I'm not upgradeing till I see whats next.
I'm interested to see what the partners will do with the non-referance boards, Imagine what ASUS could do if the GPU Boost,base clock, and spread are all adjustable in the BIOS....EPU and TPU switchs on video cards??maybe??
ok sorry for the long post, but thats my $.02..
Most reviewers are calling the 680 the new king, but with a features gone(compute). This keeps AMD in some of our hearts because we get basiclly the same performance(with better compute) for a little more money.
Tom called them basically the same, buy what you want, you have love his honesty and unbiased opinion. For most of us this would seem 100% true, but I think he is right, something is fishy with the 680.
The 580 was a true king of it's time! Fast and powerful, when needed, cool and quiet when not. It had so much going fot it nothing could touch it, which put an instant target on its back!!! To beat it you needed dual GPU,x-fire, or SLI, but your power bill went way up, and your wallet was lighter. To use less power or be cheaper, it was hard to beat. So I gotta give props to the old King....because it will be the mark from which all will be measured from ,for a while, anyway....
580 vs 680 the 680 wins in almost every way except it's computing, the 580 destroys it....folders, wait.. when the price drops on the 580s buy them all up, or buy used 580s...there will be alot of them soon.
The reason has to be twice the CUDA cores at a higher clock for $500 would kill off the TESLA/QUADRO card sales, when the 680 could almost do what a $2000 card could do..a sly business move for Nvidia!!
I think they are being smart though, release the 600 series now, minus compute at current 500 series prices and 90% of us wouldn't be the wiser, because It's benchmarks and game performance is better than the 580, than once they got all our money and sales start droping, the all new 700 series!!!(aka.600 series with compute for alot more money). For some this would be a good thing, if you don't need compute buy the cheaper 600 gaming cards, but bad for those that want it, because I'm sure you will be forced to pay a higher price for it. Just another notch inbetween type of cards, from workstation cards. High end gamming and ultra class consumer cards.
I think thats why there is extra solder points on the cards for different PCI-E power. There is clearly a spot for a 8 pin next to the top 6 pin, which the higher end boards may need when they boost compute performance, add a second GPU, or just maybe its there for a killer overclocking single slot water cooled configuation.... who knows.
7970 vs 680 not so clear....
gaming- buy the card that performs better in the games you play at the price you can afford.
overclocking- I think the 680 will be way better for people who don't mess about with their video cards that much because it basically has INTEL Speed Step, when it's loaded down(all cores active) it runs at "stock clock", but if you throw an old game that is less demanding(lesser cores active) it overclocks itself for better performance.
The 7970 will be better for those who like messing with their card overclocks, I can see where GPU Boost would confuse or piss off people trying to overclock the 680.
Power-the 680, across the board uses less power. Where it beats the 7970 and has lower power, it is the clear watts/performance winner. In cases where the 7970 beats the 680, but the 680 still uses lower power, it's bascically a tie, you have to choose based on other things.
One place where the 7970 wins out,and it affects alot of us,is Idle power!! AMD cards have zero core(the thing keeping Tom from Quad x-fire, till he got it sorted). If you sit in front your computer messing with it all the time, it doesn't matter, but if you leave your machine on all the time or walk away from it alot, the AMD cards will sense when your monitor turns off and cut it's core power to only a few watts.
Basicaly I see this as the same thing:
Nvidia=higher base clock and overclocks when needed, always using less power.
AMD=needs more power to do the same work but underclocks when not needed, to make up for it's power wasteing habits.
kinda sounds familiar...dosen't it?
Price=let the battle begin.. so WE can win alittle!!
personally, I'm kinda steering away from the 680, until I see where they go next. I can see alot of you with single 580 or even 570s switching to 680s for a small bump in performance(losing compute), than AMD responds with a 7990 single GPU card to regain the crown , and Nvidia releases a 685,690, and a 695, leaving the people who just bought a new 680 with a mid grade card??? but ofcorse this will force the price down and you can just pick up one or two more for 2 or 3 way SLI.
I went the expensive single GPU route first time around, this time I went with 2 cheaper cards in SLI(although they cost more than one single card they also beat it peformance wise), they are brand new, so I'm not upgradeing till I see whats next.
I'm interested to see what the partners will do with the non-referance boards, Imagine what ASUS could do if the GPU Boost,base clock, and spread are all adjustable in the BIOS....EPU and TPU switchs on video cards??maybe??
ok sorry for the long post, but thats my $.02..
janiashvili
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what do you mean by "Compute"?
