Nvidia GTX1080 Ti Founders Edition Review

Dragon_Orb said:
I think sometimes you have to look at other factors for pricing issues. Product life-cycle, economic strength and political climate, to name a few. The fact is they've always been horribly expensive, it's not a new thing. With my own personal experience the Nvidia cards are only as expensive now as they were 16 years ago, maybe a fraction more so but after 16 years inflation that's not surprising.

When I bought my first high level graphics card, a GeForce 3 in 2001, they were fairly new out and cost about AU$1000. When I purchased the GTX 680's they were at the end of their product life-cycle just before the 700 series came out and they cost about AU$600 each on clearance. I look at the GTX 1080 price and before the 1080ti announcement they were around the AU$900-1000 mark (air cooled), now they vary between AU$750-$1000 for the various air cooled models.

In the 16 years since I purchased the GeForce 3 for about AU$1000 the price of the top new Nvidia cards still seems to be not far off that figure, around the AU$1000-$1100 when they're new out. So I think you can't always point the finger at Nvidia and totally blame them for pricing.

Yes, Nvidia have some say in determining price points for local markets but they don't have control over all the factors that go into determining that price point.

For reference AU$1000 is equivalent to £619 (approx). Just to give an idea on how markets can change, on 29 June 2001, £619 would've exchanged to about AU$1541. Exchange rates from the Reserve Bank of Australia.

So while you may not like it, I think there's more to it than just Nvidia charging too many £'s for the cards than compared to previous years.
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Out of interest, what is your minimum wage out there in Aus? I know that $2 Aus = £1 or so.
 
Dragon_Orb said:
Today £1 = $1.62 Aus, rounded.

Minimum wage before tax is $672.70 (£416.20) for a 38 hour week.
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Wow, that's high.

My step daughter is about to go to Aus as it goes. I told her to stay out there. My wife went nuts, but at the end of the day if she can have a better life out there....
 
AlienALX said:
Wow, that's high.

My step daughter is about to go to Aus as it goes. I told her to stay out there. My wife went nuts, but at the end of the day if she can have a better life out there....
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It's all kind of relative. Generally if the minimum wage is higher then generally you'll find the cost of living (food prices, rent, etc) to be higher as well.

For example I bought a loaf of bread from the bakery this morning and it cost me $4.30 (£2.66). To be fair I could get mass produced bread from the supermarket for about $2.50-$3.00 (£1.55-1.85) but I'd rather help out the local bakery and also it's just much better. I don't know how these prices would compare to UK?

It's way off topic though haha and probably not as interesting to other people as I may currently find it :p
 
Food in the USA is stupid expensive. It was one of the reasons I left and came back to the UK. I remember paying $5 for some orange juice. In 2007.

I guess we are super lucky here in the UK because food is generally quite cheap. The bread my lady and I eat, for example, costs £1.55 but it's like super posh bread with all sorts of seeds etc.

Crazy though, you said £1.55-£1.85...

https://groceries.asda.com/product/seeded-bread/warburtons-seeded-batch-bread/1233409

Sadly of all of our local shops we do not have a bakery. We do have a Polish shop that brings in fresh bread and it's cheaper, hilariously. Problem is it goes stale very quickly and I try not to eat too much bread.

Any way yeah, apologies all, back on topic we go :)
 
I want a GTX1080Ti bad.

But my biggest issue is the pricing from the AIB companies now the Founders is the same no matter what brand then if this is the case they all should be the same damn price but NOOOO ASUS has to charge more for theirs but i also blame the shops here for the stupid mark up in pricing.

And here it's a $600 mark up over the USD pricing.
 
That's not even normal price did you even read it correctly.

"On Promotion - Normal Price $1199.00 - Save $70.00"

Well they must have changed it after i looked at it cause i know for a fact the prices were different.

Even still their is prices differences anyway.
 
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King of Old School said:
That's not even normal price did you even read it correctly.

"On Promotion - Normal Price $1199.00 - Save $70.00"

Well they must have changed it after i looked at it cause i know for a fact the prices were different.

Even still their is prices differences anyway.
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The 1080 Ti's were priced at $1199 everywhere, i remember checking them at launch.

Just like the 1700x was $599 at launch, and dropped within a few days to $569

Back to the subject of the 1080 Ti, $700 does seem like good value compared to the Titan, or even the 1080, but that's always been Nvidia's marketing strategy. The titan makes the Ti cards look like good value (and not by accident either), when in reality they're still hugely overpriced. Its kind of like when people compare the 6900k to the 7700k. The only reason people think it's 'good value' is because Nvidia has twisted out perceptions of what a GPU should be worth.

So, while $700 might be 'reasonable', £700 or $1200 AUD just isn't. For that price, i could buy a PS4 pro ($550) and an Xbox One S ($400) along with 3 new release games. Or, buy one of the consoles and a 50" TV to play them on.

And if i wanted to stick to the PC market, then i could build a perfectly capable 1080p gaming system (with an RX480) for $1100 all in. Again though, even that is way more expensive than it should be when you consider other gaming options.

So no matter how i look at the 1080 Ti, no matter how impressive it is, that doesn't change the fact that (to me at least) it's a massively overpriced piece of hardware, especially considering that it will be outdated within a a year.
 
What I find interesting is that I can't think of many places that logically discusses the legitimacy of Nvidia release scheduling. People criticise it, but no one who isn't an illogical 15-year-old fanboy has anything to say in return that makes sense. They just buy the newest when it comes out and ignore the 'haters'. Nvidia have this genius stranglehold where they cater to gamers who just don't care about the nuances of the release. All they care about is performance and Nvidia always delivers.
 
AngryGoldfish said:
What I find interesting is that I can't think of many places that logically discusses the legitimacy of Nvidia release scheduling. People criticise it, but no one who isn't an illogical 15-year-old fanboy has anything to say in return that makes sense. They just buy the newest when it comes out and ignore the 'haters'. Nvidia have this genius stranglehold where they cater to gamers who just don't care about the nuances of the release. All they care about is performance and Nvidia always delivers.
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I think people are simply more ignorant today than ever before. brand fan boys will buy regardless of warnings or cries about corporate milking and market tricks.

Gamers will still continue to pre order from these big companies like Ubisoft, EA, Blizzard etc regardless of their disasterous launch issues and "debatable port quality.

I have given up trying to reason with some especially in my office here. If they wish to squander their money away on something expensive that is a minor improvement, then I suppose we should let them. You can't convince an indoctrinated user of a product or brand.

However in regards to Nvidia, I can't actually argue against those upgrading from their 1080 to 1080ti because if reviews are true, its still a considerable upgrade. Only downside is the cost, but even then at £700 this is no different to the price I paid for my 780ti cards when they were released. That is something I cannot complain about. Painful part is the whole market in general is too high.
 
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Warchild said:
I think people are simply more ignorant today than ever before. brand fan boys will buy regardless of warnings or cries about corporate milking and market tricks.

Gamers will still continue to pre order from these big companies like Ubisoft, EA, Blizzard etc regardless of their disasterous launch issues and "debatable port quality.

I have given up trying to reason with some especially in my office here. If they wish to squander their money away on something expensive that is a minor improvement, then I suppose we should let them. You can't convince an indoctrinated user of a product or brand.

However in regards to Nvidia, I can't actually argue against those upgrading from their 1080 to 1080ti because if reviews are true, its still a considerable upgrade. Only downside is the cost, but even then at £700 this is no different to the price I paid for my 780ti cards when they were released. That is something I cannot complain about. Painful part is the whole market in general is too high.
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They don't even try to justify it. It's like they know full well the problems but care little about them because they're more interested in the gains. It's like a bodybuilder consuming far too much red meat and creatine to get bigger despite being warned of the issues. They are so in love with the gains that they block out all logic.
 
Sorry for the thread necro but what settings were used for Rise of the Tomb Raider ? Doesn't give any info other than frame rate.
 
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