Nvidia confirms the MSRP of the GTX 1060 outside the US

Pretty much. On top of that Pascal still doesn't do as well in Dx12 as AMD, making it yet another series of cards not fully ready for Dx12 while being significantly more expensive than the competition. I don't get it. How do they keep getting away with this?

Simple. It's down to 2 things.
Brand(ing) and Brand Image.
 
Pretty much. On top of that Pascal still doesn't do as well in Dx12 as AMD, making it yet another series of cards not fully ready for Dx12 while being significantly more expensive than the competition. I don't get it. How do they keep getting away with this?

It will not stop the sales on the GTX1060
 
Simple. It's down to 2 things.
Brand(ing) and Brand Image.

Could also be down to them not having any competition for half a year in the high end segment. And DX12 doesn't matter all that much yet, i doubt next gen they'll be able to get away with poor DX12 performance.
 
Could also be down to them not having any competition for half a year in the high end segment. And DX12 doesn't matter all that much yet, i doubt next gen they'll be able to get away with poor DX12 performance.


They did have competition. Fury X gave the 980ti a run for it's money, but was just a little to closely priced. A fury was in a market of it's own, between a 980 and 980ti. wasn't much more than a high end 980 too. 390x/390 were very comparable to 980/970. Only things AMD lacked were power consumption loads were really high. But everything else was in check which imo made them a better buy. And for anyone who owns them, there performance won't degrade after a year of drivers.. since that topic just never seems to be stop getting talked about. I didn't believe it at first but so many reports and Barnsley has first hand exp with it, which swayed my opinion on it.
 
They did have competition. Fury X gave the 980ti a run for it's money, but was just a little to closely priced. A fury was in a market of it's own, between a 980 and 980ti. wasn't much more than a high end 980 too. 390x/390 were very comparable to 980/970. Only things AMD lacked were power consumption loads were really high. But everything else was in check which imo made them a better buy. And for anyone who owns them, there performance won't degrade after a year of drivers.. since that topic just never seems to be stop getting talked about. I didn't believe it at first but so many reports and Barnsley has first hand exp with it, which swayed my opinion on it.

The 780 didn't have competition for ages and now the 1070/1080 won't have competition till the end of the year. The main improvement of the 9xx series over the 7xx series was power consumption, so AMD could hold their ground against the 980 with the 290x performance wise, the next gen competitor by AMD released 9 months after the 980. Nvidia always has the new and shiny factor on their side for way too long and when AMD releases it's just the same thing for a bit less money.
Once AMD released their cards they were decent competition, 290 was definitely the card to have for example, but by the point it released and got viable nvidia was already swimming in 770 and 780 money.
The only thing AMD lacked was quite a big thing to be honest, the power consumption and temps were unacceptable, you know temps have gone too far when you need to ship your flagship card with an AIO by default. I'd consider that on par with the lack of DX12 performance nvidia is facing now, at least you can get improvements there with drivers and they don't really need to care for the next 6 months because there is no competition. Whenever nvidia is facing an issue on launch they have breathing room to fix it, AMD doesn't.
That driver decay thing i haven't heard of prior to Barnsley's report, my 770 didn't seem to lose performance. So unless i see broad range complaints i'll give them the benefit of the doubt on that one.
 
The 780 didn't have competition for ages and now the 1070/1080 won't have competition till the end of the year. The main improvement of the 9xx series over the 7xx series was power consumption, so AMD could hold their ground against the 980 with the 290x performance wise, the next gen competitor by AMD released 9 months after the 980. Nvidia always has the new and shiny factor on their side for way too long and when AMD releases it's just the same thing for a bit less money.
Once AMD released their cards they were decent competition, 290 was definitely the card to have for example, but by the point it released and got viable nvidia was already swimming in 770 and 780 money.
The only thing AMD lacked was quite a big thing to be honest, the power consumption and temps were unacceptable, you know temps have gone too far when you need to ship your flagship card with an AIO by default. I'd consider that on par with the lack of DX12 performance nvidia is facing now, at least you can get improvements there with drivers and they don't really need to care for the next 6 months because there is no competition. Whenever nvidia is facing an issue on launch they have breathing room to fix it, AMD doesn't.
That driver decay thing i haven't heard of prior to Barnsley's report, my 770 didn't seem to lose performance. So unless i see broad range complaints i'll give them the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Yeah let's skip back two gens and compare. Because that matters. That's not relevant to what I was saying and really isn't to anything tbh.
Driver decay thing has been around for a while. I didn't really believe it until someone I trusted actually noted it. And that's after many users reported it.
 
Yeah let's skip back two gens and compare. Because that matters. That's not relevant to what I was saying and really isn't to anything tbh.
Driver decay thing has been around for a while. I didn't really believe it until someone I trusted actually noted it. And that's after many users reported it.

Wasn't aware that the 1070/1080 is already two generations old, things sure do move quickly in tech.
The topic at hand was why nvidia gets away with their shortcomings, them having a half year headstart for the past 3 gens is about as relevant as it gets.
 
Wasn't aware that the 1070/1080 is already two generations old, things sure do move quickly in tech.
The topic at hand was why nvidia gets away with their shortcomings, them having a half year headstart for the past 3 gens is about as relevant as it gets.

7 series and 290 series is two gens ago.
 
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