Nvidia announces their GTX 1070 GPU for $379

[WYP]

Nvidia has announced their GTX 1070 GPU for $379, offering performance that they say is greater than a GTX 980Ti for a much lower price.

Read more on the Nvidia GTX 1070.

 

[Doomslayer]

To me pricing seems like it's going to slide into where the 900 series pricing is at atm, So that should mean the 900 cards should start droping in price in the next 3/4 months hopefully.

 

[steverebo]

To be fair if the performance claims are true who would want to buy maxwell. I can see why they stopped production months ago

 

[WYP]

This is all the info right now. I'm off to bed.

Wake me when something interesting happens.

 

[steverebo]

That is some dedication from our new guru, I'm only still awake because I have tinnitus

 

[Xploited Titan]

Wasn't Pascal supposed to introduce HBM2?

Not gonna get anything with only GDDR5(X), knowing the performance gap with HBM2. :mellow:

 

[NeverBackDown]

Wasn't Pascal supposed to introduce HBM2?

Not gonna get anything with only GDDR5(X), knowing the performance gap with HBM2. :mellow:

Was never going to have it. HBM is for server clusters. It's far to expensive right now for consumers as well as limited quantity

 

[Zoot]

$379 for the GTX 1070 in the US will hopefully mean reasonable prices over here. (Thanks retarded government policy of silly high taxes!)

It'd make a hell of an upgrade for me over my current GTX 780.

 

[Xploited Titan]

Was never going to have it. HBM is for server clusters. It's far to expensive right now for consumers as well as limited quantity

HBM2 should have better performance and better yields than HBM, so prices will plumet.
AMD only had priority treatment on HBM, so was thinking nVidia would follow pace with HBM2.

Oh well, then I'll be waiting bit more then.

 

[KTM_RULZ]

Was never going to have it. HBM is for server clusters. It's far to expensive right now for consumers as well as limited quantity

Not even on a possible Ti version or a Titan?

 

[DarthDudo]

Not even on a possible Ti version or a Titan?

HBM2 isn't ready and they won't release a 4GB(HBM1 Maximum) Flagship GeForce card.

 

[steverebo]

GDDR5X is comparable to HBM it's an alternative technology with similar performance. We won't see HBM on cards till the tech is perfected cheaper to produce so it won't come this gen maybe next gen

 

[Kilbane]

To be honest, the type of memory being used is pretty irrelevant. If anyone can honestly say that GDDR5 bandwidth is holding back current games then fair enough. But it is not even close to being too slow yet. Yes the bandwidth available on HBM is massive in theory, but smaller memory amounts still restrict performance more than double the memory at a slower speed.

The 1070 will still use GDDR5 memory, only the 1080 will get the GDDR5X memory. Both cards however will ship with 8GB of memory. However you look at it, its a big step forward with some serious figures behind them.

I for one can't wait for the reviews and benchmarks to be released.

 

[TPC]

Ever heard of a gpu that said "you wait a min I need time for my memory buffer." Only in DDR3 buffer days. Gddr5 and 5x are plenty fast. And also not to forget that HBM1 was effectively running at Gddr5 throughput because the controller couldn't handle it. yet everyone thought it'd be faster. Hello placebo.

 

[NeverBackDown]

GDDR5X is comparable to HBM it's an alternative technology with similar performance. We won't see HBM on cards till the tech is perfected cheaper to produce so it won't come this gen maybe next gen

They are not comparable. HBM is much much faster. However both are plenty fast as it is, so the differences in games isn't really noticeable. There's also no way to measure it, well for consumers at least. I'm sure Devs have tools for that...

Ever heard of a gpu that said "you wait a min I need time for my memory buffer." Only in DDR3 buffer days. Gddr5 and 5x are plenty fast. And also not to forget that HBM1 was effectively running at Gddr5 throughput because the controller couldn't handle it. yet everyone thought it'd be faster. Hello placebo.

I'd like proof of that. And they weren't using the same memory controller, Hawaii and Fiji aren't exactly the samer. But again no games are GPU memory bandwidth limited right now, so placebo takes place because nothing will end up taking advantage of the extra speed. Now in the server and cloud industries, they are memory constrained, so HBM/2 will get utilized, just depends on the application

 

[jmaster299]

HBM2 should have better performance and better yields than HBM, so prices will plumet.
AMD only had priority treatment on HBM, so was thinking nVidia would follow pace with HBM2.

Oh well, then I'll be waiting bit more then.

Neither Nvidia or AMD will be using HBM2 until at least some time next year. AMD has at least announced it for Vega, and the speculation is we will see it on the Pascal Titan and possibly 1080 Ti.

Since AMD's Polaris will technically only be a direct replacement for the 300 series, Nvidia is only going releasing cards to directly compete with that. They simply have no reason to rush the 1080 Ti or Pascal Titan to market, while the HBM2 prices are still so high, when there will be no direct competition from AMD for that enthusiast market.

Nvidia has set the bar insanely high with these GP104 chips, especially with that $379 price point on the 1070.

 

[NeverBackDown]

Not even on a possible Ti version or a Titan?

Probably not. As of now all the HBM2 production is going to the recently announced P100 chip. Considering the market they are aiming for is far more profitable, I doubt they would risk volume for consumers. Unless HBM2 yields are high enough for volume production, then I can see the ti/Titan chips getting it. Otherwise G5X

 

[Dawelio]

I haven't really been in the loop much cause of work and other stuff, but are we expecting an 1080Ti? And if so, when?...

 

[steverebo]

It will be the same as always the TI version will be released 6 to 9 months after the first launch I would probably think it will hit us first quarter 2017