Newbie, with numpty questions

Kinky

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Peeps,

Although not a newbie to PCs (in general), I am a complete numpty when it comes to self-build machines.

I'm hoping I'll get all the answers here, to help my situation, as follows .....

It's Kinky Juniors birthday at the end of April (he'll be 13). He wants to build his own PC, which I fully support/endorse. However, I have absolutely no idea where to begin.

What I do know is:
1: It would be used primarily for playing games - not hardcore ones (yet), but things like football manager, etc, etc. He's already got an Xbox and lives on that that today.

2: He'd also use it for standard PC stuff - doing his homework, watching YouTube, etc.

3: Personal preference is to go down the Intel route, as opposed to AMD - but I don't know if that's relevant when it comes to gamesplay, etc.

Reading through the starters guide, here's my answers to the questions as posed:

Where are you located? Deepest Berkshire

• What is your budget? Around £300

• Will you need a monitor, keyboard, and/or mouse included in that budget? No.

• Shall you be requiring an OS? No.

• What will you be using this rig for? As above, basic game playing, and domestic stuff.

• If gaming, what resolution will you be playing at? I'm assuming up to 1080.

• Will you be overclocking? Not yet.

• Do you need a full build or will you be reusing some old parts? Full build.

As I say, long term, I will expect him to upgrade parts as his gaming becomes more hardcore. But just to start him off, I'm after a basic kit.

Where do I start? Any help, guidance and direction genuinely and gratefully appreciated.
 
For around £300 it will be pretty tough with a case, hdd, psu etc... you *might* have to look at AMD, for intel around that price you'll probably have to look at the pentiums. An APU build might be worth looking at (thinking about cost) What kind of games will be wanting to be played?

*Edit* As Wraith said, welcome to Oc3d! I didn't realize was first post... my bad! :p
 
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Firstly welcome to the OC3D forums.

Wow around £300 budget not going to be an easy task especially at 1080 resolution, also taking into account you are preferring Intel it's going to be very tricky indeed.
 
Give up the intel idea. It'll be very tricky to do that for the budget unless you're happy with an i3+gt620 sadly. :(
 
OK this is what I came up with should be more than enough to play football manager and do school stuff, it's slightly over your budget but with current prices I don't think it's a bad start.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A6-5400K 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor (£41.80 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-DS2 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard (£35.78 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£58.96 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.96 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 250 1GB Video Card (£68.97 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case (£29.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£36.73 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £332.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-03 19:42 GMT+0000)
 
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You wont get new intel for £300 end of.

Youd have to look at a BASIC AMD APU system and that would be without a dedicated graphics card too
 
£335 (i'd save up some more)

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/33tQJ

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£56.10 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (£40.14 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.23 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.90 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card (£72.98 @ Aria PC)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£33.83 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£34.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £334.32
 
£335 (i'd save up some more)

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/33tQJ

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 750K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£56.10 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard (£40.14 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£59.23 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.90 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card (£72.98 @ Aria PC)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£33.83 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£34.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £334.32

I was just looking at a similar build aswell Cooperman,

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K (£65)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88XM-HD3 £47.86
Memory: Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) £37.87
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1tb £43
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 250 2GB £62.00
Case: Coolermaster Elite 334U Mid Tower £34.90
Power Supply: Corsair Builder Series CX 430 Watt £32.11

Total: £323.43 (all of it was on Amazon)

I do think your build is better in having 8gigs of ram, a better psu and a 7770, just wanted to post it as i was scouring Amazon :p
 
This is the best I have come up with within the price range. Will handle most games 1080p at medium-high.
AMD A8-6600K Quad Core £57.49
Gigabyte GA-F2A78M-DS2 M-ATX Motherboard £32.99
Powercolor HD7770 1gb £60.82
Coolermaster N200 M-ATX Case £28.19
Mushkin 8gb DDR3 (2 x 4gb) £44.99
Corsair 430CX Power Supply £29.42
500GB Seagate Barracuda £29.97
Total £340.64

All prices from www.aria.co.uk
 
Found this video; might work.
If you don't mind AMD, I'd recommend getting an FM2 board and an Athlon 750k/ 760k. You might also be able to get an HD 7790/ 260x for the price these days. Don't skimp on the PSU like he did though, get something like the Corsair CX430 or even the VS450.

It's a £300 gaming build with some gameplay to show the performance near the end.

 
Blimey. I'm overwhelmed. Thank you all so much for the responses and inputs.

Lots of food for thought. One of which seems to be the whole Intel/AMD decision. It does prompt 1 question from me. Is the motherboard tied to the chip? For example, if we got an AMD-based machine today, could we swap the processor out for an Intel one in a years or 2 time?

@ Feronix - thank you so much for that video. Seeing as he uses Steam today on his laptop, it might be bang on.

Again, thanks everyone. And yeah, I forgot to mention I was a virgin poster. But not now (up to 2 posts now) :)
 
Blimey. I'm overwhelmed. Thank you all so much for the responses and inputs.

Lots of food for thought. One of which seems to be the whole Intel/AMD decision. It does prompt 1 question from me. Is the motherboard tied to the chip? For example, if we got an AMD-based machine today, could we swap the processor out for an Intel one in a years or 2 time?

@ Feronix - thank you so much for that video. Seeing as he uses Steam today on his laptop, it might be bang on.

Again, thanks everyone. And yeah, I forgot to mention I was a virgin poster. But not now (up to 2 posts now) :)

You're more than welcome it's what we do and why we're all here :)

AMD CPUs will only fit AMD compatible motherboards, like wise with Intel. When purchasing a processor always pay attention to its Socket type i.e The AMD Athlon 750k is a socket FM2+ CPU so will require a FM2+ socket motherboard.
Hope this helps.
 
As Wraith says, you wouldn't be able to put an AMD cpu in an intel socket/vice versa, for e.g

1150= Haswell (intel only)
1155= Ivybridge (intel only)
AM3+ FX etc (AMD only)
Fm2+ Kaveri (but also you can put older cpu's in it from FM2 aswell but...) (AMD only)



Just to mention quickly aswell, i think the 750/60K can be put into just FM2 boards (but as AMD are nice, you can also put those chips in FM2+ aswell)

Hope it helps!
 
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