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[benj3]

Im sorry, a 100GB SSD will beable to hold your os, and about 5-6 games depending on which ones im thinking 10+ Gig ones now so its not just going to be your OS on the SSD u can install ur favourite games on it too so stop this totally irrelevant argument :>!

My SSD Has Adobe Master Suite, 4 Games, Microsoft office and Windows OS and i can notice the difference especially when loading applications like Adobe Premier and Photoshop etc!

 

[SLIEuro]

games wouldent that much,but the OS would

Word would open faster

There wouldn't be much performance gained, but games like GTAIV it no longer suffer's from jittering.

 

[SLIEuro]

Word would benefit from an SSD by a huge margin if installed on it. Everything will benefit from being installed on an SSD, especially if the OS is installed on on. It is going to be really, really fast and snappy.

How? Not everything benefits SSD or much performance gained. I have a SSD and use Word and see no performance gained.

 

[hmmblah]

games wouldent that much,but the OS would

Word would open faster

Especially Word 2007 or 2010.

 

[Zraupp]

games wouldent that much,but the OS would

Word would open faster

it will do more then OPEN faster man

 

[hmmblah]

Not Everything in on your OS, only thing i use whats on the OS is the internet, thats all, thats all thats on there, WORD is not on OS, and I'm not sure if i should be sorry for my BAD English.

and "Even the Start Menu is faster" my NON-SSD 200GB 7200RPM 1.5GB per sec 8MB start menu start up just fine, its not slow at all.

See this is where you just need to try it for yourself. Your system may seem fast and not slow at all, which in relative terms it isn't slow, but when compared to an SSD traditional hard drives feel very slow.

The best solution, never get an SSD to feel how fast they are. It's hard to go back to something slower.

A low end video card will run most games at low settings just fine. Why have a high end card at all? Because it's faster

. If you're happy with what you have, it may not be worth it for you, but someone with a high end system will want to squeeze out every ounce of performance possible.

People won't point out your bad English if you don't make stupid comments like someone not being able to read. I can read fine. There's no reason for insults just because you don't agree with me.

 

[bertdasquirt]

Basically all the previous comments about the only thing that you use on an OS is internet explorer is BS! The OS is everything you see on the screen... so when u click on any icon or start menu, system information you will see a dramatic difference PLUS! SSD's support TRIM so after filling it up you wont be left with a sluggish system!

Tbh if you dont wanna spend too much on an SSD and still want the benefits you could look at the 2.5" hybrid SSD's unfortunately only starting at 250GB for £80 i would say thats quite reasonable and on testing shows that it is just a few seconds slower than an SSD and at least 20 seconds faster than a 10krpm HDD...

 

[Zraupp]

Basically all the previous comments about the only thing that you use on an OS is internet explorer is BS! The OS is everything you see on the screen... so when u click on any icon or start menu, system information you will see a dramatic difference PLUS! SSD's support TRIM so after filling it up you wont be left with a sluggish system!

Tbh if you dont wanna spend too much on an SSD and still want the benefits you could look at the 2.5" hybrid SSD's unfortunately only starting at 250GB for £80 i would say thats quite reasonable and on testing shows that it is just a few seconds slower than an SSD and at least 20 seconds faster than a 10krpm HDD...

"support TRIM" what the h* is that?

and "hybrid SSD's" i only found in laptop hard drives

 

[bertdasquirt]

hybrid drives

TRIM.... why dont you google it... lol your on a computer!

I only know the benefits, it reduces the rate at which your SSD degrades- performance wise and i believe that so far it is only compatible with windows 7 which is why they recommend an SSD for a W7 boot drive.. this doesnt mean you wont see a performance increase in any other OS, it just means that it will feel like new for longer!

*** edit***

Maybe TTL could have a look into reviewing a hybrid drive for us...

 

[AMDFTW]

oops

 

[AMDFTW]

it will do more then OPEN faster man

Like?

the only thing a SSD will do is open apps faster and boot quicker and make the OS snappy..............thats it

 

[Zraupp]

Like?

the only thing a SSD will do is open apps faster and boot quicker and make the OS snappy..............thats it

Open faster Load documents faster but Word will have to be on the SSD for that

 

[AMDFTW]

but Word will have to be on the SSD for that

you dont say

 

[bertdasquirt]

Open faster Load documents faster but Word will have to be on the SSD for that

yeah but it doesn't exactly take up much space does it???

 

[Ralm]

Yeah but dont RAID them mate

The results from OCZ's website from their own testers state their results come from

I didn't know that. Well knowing that I will go to 120Gb Vertex2 (is cheaper then 2 x 60Gb).

Well people can you stop doing this post FLAME and comment my rig??

Thx,

Ralm.

 

[bertdasquirt]

ok sorry :/ well now u know about TRIM its definitely worth going for the 120GB instead of 2x60GB. tbh if i had the money i would only use a 160GB SSD as i currently only have 2x80GB HDD's installed and i dont really use much space...i was thinking about getting a 60GB SSD for boot, programs and apps and use my two 80GB HDDs in raid....

 

[killablade]

@ Zraupp: Stop. Just stop. SSD's give your system a huge boost, end of discussion.

I didn't know that. Well knowing that I will go to 120Gb Vertex2 (is cheaper then 2 x 60Gb).

Well people can you stop doing this post FLAME and comment my rig??

Thx,

Ralm.

Yar!

Motherboard: Look at the Asus Sabertooth.

Memory: Look at Mushkin ram if it's available in Portugal. If not, either one of the kits you mentioned will do. Just pick the one with the lowest latency.

HDD/SSD: Get a SSD (60GB or so) as a boot drive if you can afford it. Also, Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB over the Western Digital. It's faster and cheaper.

Case: It's okay, but look at Bitfenix, or the NZXT Phantom. If you like the look of the CM HAF cases, look at the HAF-X. It might be more expensive, but it's tons better.

As mentioned before: What CPU cooler are you getting? If you're going to overclock you'll need a decent heatsink! Get the Noctua NH-D14. Cuz it's epic.

My couple o' cents

 

[Ralm]

@ Zraupp: Stop. Just stop. SSD's give your system a huge boost, end of discussion.

Yar!

Motherboard: Look at the Asus Sabertooth.

Memory: Look at Mushkin ram if it's available in Portugal. If not, either one of the kits you mentioned will do. Just pick the one with the lowest latency.

HDD/SSD: Get a SSD (60GB or so) as a boot drive if you can afford it. Also, Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB over the Western Digital. It's faster and cheaper.

Case: It's okay, but look at Bitfenix, or the NZXT Phantom. If you like the look of the CM HAF cases, look at the HAF-X. It might be more expensive, but it's tons better.

As mentioned before: What CPU cooler are you getting? If you're going to overclock you'll need a decent heatsink! Get the Noctua NH-D14. Cuz it's epic.

My couple o' cents

I wad answer to that before in one of the answers.

Yes i will put the Noctua NH-D14 XD

 

[alienware]

Word would not benefit SSD, only OS and games.

Of all of the things I tried on SSD games didn't seem any better. Mostly because they are loading large chunks of data into RAM which will take time. Small apps like Word are the ones to benefit from quick opening times. Photoshop loads faster too.

When I had two SSD I decided to try using the larger one (64gb) to store a few games on. Was all rather pointless really.

See this is where you just need to try it for yourself. Your system may seem fast and not slow at all, which in relative terms it isn't slow, but when compared to an SSD traditional hard drives feel very slow.

Totally. I mean, it's not like you can't see how quick they are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owd7qAwIEL8

your not getting my point, if you just have it as a boot drive the thats all that runs faster is that ever comes with your OS, big woopy doo, turns on faster, woopy dooo games are on other hard drive soo they are the same seed, woopy doo i don't gain anything o wait the pc turns on and off faster :-D don't care. when the $ go down so i can get a OCZ IBIS 240GB drive then I'll be happy i can have my os+ games on that.

You really, honestly, truly have no idea what you are talking about there.

It's not just Windows. As one example here. When your PC loads something that is bigger than the free ram it has it then takes virtual memory. That virtual memory is a chunk of your hard drive. That chunk of your hard drive is EXTREMELY slow when compared to the speed of your working memory. Thus, the faster your hard drive can act as virtual memory the faster your entire system will become. And you don't just put Windows on there. On mine I have -

Windows (obviously)

VLC

Skype

Photoshop inc scratch volume

Firefox

IE

NLpro

Adobe Acrobat

Virtualdub

Revo

FRAPS

MSN

Nero

repeat ad nauseum. You put all of your running apps on there apart from games. So EVERYTHING loads faster, EVERYTHING works faster ETC.

Nobody likes a slow PC me? I will take anything that will give any extra trace of speed and I can tell you now NOTHING on the computer market today will add the sort of speed boost to your PC that an SSD will. Nothing.

 

[Zraupp]

Of all of the things I tried on SSD games didn't seem any better. Mostly because they are loading large chunks of data into RAM which will take time. Small apps like Word are the ones to benefit from quick opening times. Photoshop loads faster too.

When I had two SSD I decided to try using the larger one (64gb) to store a few games on. Was all rather pointless really.

Totally. I mean, it's not like you can't see how quick they are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owd7qAwIEL8

You really, honestly, truly have no idea what you are talking about there.

It's not just Windows. As one example here. When your PC loads something that is bigger than the free ram it has it then takes virtual memory. That virtual memory is a chunk of your hard drive. That chunk of your hard drive is EXTREMELY slow when compared to the speed of your working memory. Thus, the faster your hard drive can act as virtual memory the faster your entire system will become. And you don't just put Windows on there. On mine I have -

Windows (obviously)

VLC

Skype

Photoshop inc scratch volume

Firefox

IE

NLpro

Adobe Acrobat

Virtualdub

Revo

FRAPS

MSN

Nero

repeat ad nauseum. You put all of your running apps on there apart from games. So EVERYTHING loads faster, EVERYTHING works faster ETC.

Nobody likes a slow PC me? I will take anything that will give any extra trace of speed and I can tell you now NOTHING on the computer market today will add the sort of speed boost to your PC that an SSD will. Nothing.

I see no performances diff from your pc then mine, starts lill faster then mine woopy and my internet loads faster then yours HAHAHA

and note:

My Laptop starts faster then that :-x (specs: http://perfect-computers.com/Notebooks/HP-Pavilion-DV8210us/Detailed-product-flyer.html note: upgraded that to 2GB DDR)