New Battlestation; 1400€
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Lowfyr
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Now that you ask, I thought the 820 was the most quality case of NZXT. What's the difference between the 820 and the 630?
Also @Corsair Carbide Air 540: Will I be able to fit the Corsair Hydro 100i or Corsair Hydro 110?
I never used any kind of water cooling before, could someone give me an overview on the principle of closed loops? If I get it right its a closed water cycle which is intended to cool my CPU (in this situation).
The water transports the heat from the CPU to the Radiator (?), on which 1 or 2 fans are mounted to cool the water again.
The Radiator is mounted in the computer case like a normal fan, will it work as a case fan as well? (2 functions in 1). The Radiator also keeps the water flowing.
Also @Corsair Carbide Air 540: Will I be able to fit the Corsair Hydro 100i or Corsair Hydro 110?
I never used any kind of water cooling before, could someone give me an overview on the principle of closed loops? If I get it right its a closed water cycle which is intended to cool my CPU (in this situation).
The water transports the heat from the CPU to the Radiator (?), on which 1 or 2 fans are mounted to cool the water again.
The Radiator is mounted in the computer case like a normal fan, will it work as a case fan as well? (2 functions in 1). The Radiator also keeps the water flowing.
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Feronix
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The 630 doesn't have the hue lighting system integrated and I'm fairly sure that it's a tad smaller.
You can also replace the 200mm front intake fan with 2x14mm on the 630 which you can't do on the 820.
NZXT has also recently announced the 530, which is an ATX version of the case but still offers mostly the same features:
http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/134-phantom-530.html
Spiderz
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820 is a bit bigger but more expensive. TTL said some of the panels, particularly the windowed side panel, were out of place on a case costing so much and the price premium over the switch 810 was mostly for styling. The other premium was for the built in lighting, you need to decide if that would swing it for you or not.
The 630 though still had acres of space for building pretty much anything and has a ton of air and water cooling support without going to crazy sizes.
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The 630 though still had acres of space for building pretty much anything and has a ton of air and water cooling support without going to crazy sizes.
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This too though i didn't know the 530 was on its way.
NeverBackDown
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Yes the 540 will fit an H100i but honestly that case will be put to waste just for that closed loop cooler.
The resovior built inside the H100i contains coolant that fills the whole unit. The pump will then Push the coolant to the outlet tube into the inlet of the radiator that then flows through tubes. While doing so fans mounted the the radiator push air over the tubes/fins that cools it down. After passing through all the tubes the coolant flows back into the outlet tube and travles into the inlet port in the resovior/pump and the process continues until no more power is given to the pump.
Mount the radiator to the the case with the included screws. then mount fans the other side of the rad and their you go. Fans can be mounted to case and then rad mounted to fans as well.
Lowfyr
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Why would it be put to waste?
Thanks for the explanation though =)
So I'm also able to "sandwich" the radiator, using 4 fans.
Also, I updatet my list again:
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Case: Corsair Carbide Air 540
PSU: be quiet! Dark Power Pro 10 750W
CPU: Intel i7 4770K "Haswell"
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100i
Mainboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Red DDR3-2400, CL10 - 16GB Kit
GPU: MSI GTX760 Twin Frozr
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro series
HDD: Seagate ST1000DM003 1 TB
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Thanks for the explanation though =)
So I'm also able to "sandwich" the radiator, using 4 fans.
Also, I updatet my list again:
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Case: Corsair Carbide Air 540
PSU: be quiet! Dark Power Pro 10 750W
CPU: Intel i7 4770K "Haswell"
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100i
Mainboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro Series Red DDR3-2400, CL10 - 16GB Kit
GPU: MSI GTX760 Twin Frozr
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro series
HDD: Seagate ST1000DM003 1 TB
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
It's a waste because in a case such as the 540 is meant for either extreme air cooling or proper watercooling. Not no closed loop half ass watercooling.. It's your choice but you're better off with a thicker rad and fans set in pull than a closed loop in push pull.
Lowfyr
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Oh, thought that the radiator fans would suck the air out of the case anyway, resulting in two benefits:
1. Acting as case fan, sucking air out of the case
2. Cooling the radiator and thus the cooling liquid in the process.
Where a fan "sandwich" would mean 4 fans sucking in one direction.
1. Acting as case fan, sucking air out of the case
2. Cooling the radiator and thus the cooling liquid in the process.
Where a fan "sandwich" would mean 4 fans sucking in one direction.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Yes it will pull the air out from the case. Push/Pull or "sandwhich" will only cool temps down around 3C. Real watercooling with a thicker rad will yield better performance.
Cru
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ofc a custom loop is better than some AIO unit, but it's way more expensive when done properly and not really something for beginners
stick to the h100i...
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
^^^ No duh? The 540 air is a waste of money for AIO cooler. Go custom for water in this case..
"Not really something for beginners"? We all have to start somewhere dude.
If he got an XSPC all in one kit then it won't be too hard to manage.
"Not really something for beginners"? We all have to start somewhere dude.
If he got an XSPC all in one kit then it won't be too hard to manage.
Cru
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an h100i might look a bit weird in something like the 540 in your opinion, but that doesn't mean everyone doesn't like it. i also think that he's not completely set on that case at the moment
yeah, we all have to start somewhere but it seems like Lowfyr doesn't know that much about PCs in general. going for a custom loop when having trouble building a "normal" rig is a very bad idea mate.
buying watercooling kits removes fucking up when buying parts, but there's lost you can do wrong when doing the loop
"what is haswell" and waterloop don't mix well. i'd rather use a different case than let him face the challenge of a custom waterloop.
Lowfyr
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I see myself as an advanced PC user in fact, this would make my 5th self built PC.
However I'm a noob concerning everything WC or advanced cooling etc. (sticked with boxed coolers and pre mounted vents until my last pc). Also, it's been some years since I built my current rig (i7 920 built) and I don't really follow current hardware news as long as I'm not planning to build an new one.
This is also the first PC I really want to make look neat
The case is something I'm willing to spend some extra bucks simply because of the looks and quality feel. Personally, I think that the Air 540 looks awesome with an Corsair H100i/H110.
I don't really doubt that I could built a watercooled computer after grabbing some informations, it's only that I'm not interested in it at the moment, I didn't know about closed loops before.
However after it has been suggested in this thread, I personally think it's a really cool idea, it looks really nice and clean, seems to have awesome cooling abilities (for CPU overclocking) while being a money saving solution.
And a really low cpu temperature seems to benefit the whole inside of the case as well, so in theory the combination of awesome air cooling and liquid CPU cooling sounds really appealing.
It's just that I like to hear good critiques, which this thread has offered me so far
So thanks for your patience so far
However I'm a noob concerning everything WC or advanced cooling etc. (sticked with boxed coolers and pre mounted vents until my last pc). Also, it's been some years since I built my current rig (i7 920 built) and I don't really follow current hardware news as long as I'm not planning to build an new one.
This is also the first PC I really want to make look neat
The case is something I'm willing to spend some extra bucks simply because of the looks and quality feel. Personally, I think that the Air 540 looks awesome with an Corsair H100i/H110.
I don't really doubt that I could built a watercooled computer after grabbing some informations, it's only that I'm not interested in it at the moment, I didn't know about closed loops before.
However after it has been suggested in this thread, I personally think it's a really cool idea, it looks really nice and clean, seems to have awesome cooling abilities (for CPU overclocking) while being a money saving solution.
And a really low cpu temperature seems to benefit the whole inside of the case as well, so in theory the combination of awesome air cooling and liquid CPU cooling sounds really appealing.
It's just that I like to hear good critiques, which this thread has offered me so far
So thanks for your patience so far
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NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Do what's easiest for you then.
