Need a little advise

SimonB

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I made it shorter and more clear for faster help

Hi i will try to be short building a rig and parts are:
mobo:Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H or GA-Z87-D3HP
cpu: 4670k
ram: corsair lp ddr3 8GB (2x4Gb ) 2133MHz
case: fractal design arc midi r2 or FD Define R4
PSU: FD Newton R3 600w (platinum)
storage: i will keep old pyro ssd 120gb+1tb 7.2k rpm
GPU: will put hd7970 or will wait for hd8/9950 or 70

need sugestions with or if u could help me plan is oc it to 4.4ghz at least (the only thing i want ud3h is solid capasitors i think its good to have good quality components on oced platform)

and the last thing is it would probably wount be good to have h100i for this oc on haswell ? maybe i should put custom loop with monter 2x120x80 rad? if so what good performance/price block i should buy? i was thinking about xspc raystorm but maybe there is cheaper block with same performance?
thnx even if u read ;) i hope you could help me to deside PS its gaming rig ;)
 
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awesome list...
hopefully we can get some interested members to help.
 
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you might want to reformat your post. "The Wall of TEXT" usually discourages help.
if you'd break it up into subjects:
MOBO
RAM
PSU
Case

and use one color of text. you are trying to ask a serious question with serious
answers and the colors make it look juvenile. hopefully we can get some interested
members to help.
TY for moving and sugestions but i try to color code parts and thing i dont want to change but i will make it black then ;) gona use your advise since you should knew what u say ;)
 
By simply asking and bringing up the console architecture you risk having a thread being hijacked(someone takes over your thread) and going off into a topic that in itself can be tediously long and complicated depending on the knowledge of the people discussing it.

But to dumb it down real quick.

With the PS4/Xbone both using similar architecture AMD cpus(x86) using 8-cores and the AMD GCN arch for the gpu, it's optimized for gaming(more so than other tasks) games being ported FROM console TOO PC is where all the AMD optimizations and multi-threaded cores will become heavily made to cater PC versions of AMD Cpus. Now from PC to Console is where it gets more complicated and more variables come into play. AMD CPUs/GPUs may or may not be more optimized on the PC depending on how the developer feels what's best for each platform.

So in other words it's a hit or miss. We will not be able to figure this out for facts because it has not happened yet. Though I am fairly certain I'm 80% correct. We'll see in the future.

So pick a platform you want; Intel/Amd. Then pick the CPU and accordingly pick a motherboard with the correct socket.
Next for the ram pick 8gb and since you said you can get 2133mhz ram for barely more money mine as well get that. Won't hurt you at all and should come in handy if console ram speeds are high(sorry to bring console back up).

PSU should be 650watt just for the sake of insurance the PSU can handle any overclocks you throw at it with a single Gpu/Cpu. Seasonic is my recommended brand.

Storage.
I would suggest upgrading to a bigger single SSD over raid SSDs. As long as you have at least one ssd then your fine on speed and storage with a Hdd.

Case/WC
You seem to be fairly new to this as the "money factor" is literally a joke when watercooling. Do it right or not at all.

You can not put a 360 in an ARC 2. You will need modding and a dual bay res pump most likely won't fit with a 360 in the roof. The R4(i have it) will be difficult for a first timer(i'm assuming you are) with just a tad of not enough space throughout the rig.

I suggest waiting for the ARC XL(no release date as of yet) and water cool in the case as it will be far easier to do.
 
By simply asking and bringing up the console architecture you risk having a thread being hijacked(someone takes over your thread) and going off into a topic that in itself can be tediously long and complicated depending on the knowledge of the people discussing it.
...(cuted out to make Quote shorter sry)...
I suggest waiting for the ARC XL(no release date as of yet) and water cool in the case as it will be far easier to do.
Thnx for your wize knowlage ;) my opinion about console staff is just the same as yours thats why im so confused and i mentioned that its 4670k what i picked other stuff is there too.. As for 360 i said that 2albay rez is optional if im not going to trow 360 so probably i didnt wrote it clear enoutgh sry for that as for ssd well im still thinking about raid 0 because it gives some boost and as for bigger single ssd sry i dont need that having 120 over 18months now and never been short on space since i mostly use steam and play 1 game at a time i berely need my 1tb dont do lots of photos or other files to storage ... and yes i love Seasonic brand too but in my country its hard to find one at good price but i must admit im still thinking about corsairs line but 80+gold is more expencive and cheap is joke issint really truth yes WC is more expencive then closed loops even set i mentioned is like x3-x4 times the price but thats why i cheap out a bit on other parts to have money on wc ;) but still thanks for the time u spent ;) i hope to hear more opinions im a bit new to WC but smart enoutgh to understand how to fit parts i will pick =D because i think twice do once ;)
 
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Don't mean to be a grammar nazi or anything but.... you should space out your text so it's easier to read and try to tidy up some spelling. The way you wrote sort of makes it hard to follow. But not a big deal most of us can figure out what you're saying.

If you have to skimp out on parts to afford watercooling then i suggest not watercooling at all. Your only as strong as your weakest link. Build first then focus on water cooling.
 
Don't mean to be a grammar nazi or anything but.... you should space out your text so it's easier to read and try to tidy up some spelling. The way you wrote sort of makes it hard to follow. But not a big deal most of us can figure out what you're saying.

If you have to skimp out on parts to afford watercooling then i suggest not watercooling at all. Your only as strong as your weakest link. Build first then focus on water cooling.

Maybe you are right maybe you are not =D only future will show would be nice to knew more about mobo what difference they have. and actually i don't see any weak spots in build im not sure how weak fractal 80+gold psu is but its certified and with well known brand (for cases at least ) as for 650 i started to think about newton R3 600w 80+platinum only thing that i dont like on it is cable sleeving but other then that seem to be perfect as it is best at around 50% load

As for mobo im not looking for 4.8 or more so something like maximus extreme or gigabyte sniper 5 is not for me i prefer buying best single gpu instead (it still might be 780 but we all knew they go step by step so 8/9970 should be better or cheaper ;) since i will not use cuda cores for rendering i don't want to be overpaying. would be nice if u have some more advise in what i actually concerned the most that is what mobo should i pick (prefer 5years warranty ) and medium OC ready.
 
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any other opinions guys? what you think about "msi z87-g45"? i dont like red color but it has solid japan caps ant probably other quality components and is like 20% cheaper since ud3h cost 550lt g45 cost 440lt in my country so what do you think?
 
If you want to OC on Haswell then I suggest you follow Tom's video guide
here

With a little common sense, the same principle can be applied to the Z87 platform.

Good luck with your build mate
 
If you want to OC on Haswell then I suggest you follow Tom's video guide
With a little common sense, the same principle can be applied to the Z87 platform.

Good luck with your build mate
ty lad im aware of how to oc system since my phenom 965be is 4,2ghz =D its prety much max u can have with air cooling =} and i knew i first need to work out the lowest clock on stock voltage and then ramp it up ,part by part ;) it always was the same way in OC =}
 
^^^ Intel OC's different from AMD. SO i would just go through the video to catch up with how intel CPUs handle things.
bro u are so wrong =DD they arent diferent at all when u speak about basics yes they need diferent voltages but basics are the same u must find butom clock per voltage in a first pleace =D and i seen ttl video about oc its really the same thing after that you gona do all whats nasesery turn of some green stuff things... and so on but basics are the same like in football u use legs instead of arms ;)
 
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