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Of course. They're aimed at kids. Young kids, big kids.. All the same. I agree they do offer somewhat hassle free gaming (somewhat because they do still crash and do still need updates) but that gaming is expensive if you want to keep up. The online games are not something you can pick up from a bargain bin and hope all your mates will still be playing. You need the latest ones, and those demand top prices.

And it doesn't end there because then you pay the subscription fees for live and so on. Microsoft have a good method of prying money out of you long after you made the initial outlays unless you like playing old bargain bin games on your own.

Primarily neither of my PCs were built for games. The more powerful of the two is what I use for day to day stuff (emails web photoshop and so on) and I have only spent £250 on a pair of Radeons for gaming. With or without the Radeons I would have got the rest any way.

The other machine was mostly leftover parts I did not want to sell and the 3870x2 was £55. See, that's where the expensive argument ends. Most households will have a computer capable of gaming all you would need is a half decent GPU thrown in there. A brand new 5770 costs £125 and is more than capable of running the latest games.
 
at first when i got into it i would build the pc for gamin but right now kinda taken a back step and its mainly for folding@home i build mines for some gamin when im gettin flooded with bad work units like i was for the past 2 days (damn 105XX and 66XX realy hurts my ppd!)
 
i still think its alot to do with marketing regardless of who its aimed at now. we all know consoles have the biggest user base. they got this threw the reputation the pc gameing was exspensive and full of hassle

im not even talking about microsoft or sony now the people that got this massive userbase was nintendo and megadrive

when you consider how useless how dificult and how "boreing" pc gameing was prior and up to the likes of snes and megadrive master system n 64 what ever the nintendo 1st console was called,

people (and people as a whole are rather dumb like sheep) have been feed the idea that consoles are the best way to enjoy video games bang for buck. back in the days barely any household had a pc in it they were saved for the schools, buisnesses and rich folk.

now i know some of you will come up with comordors and such but tbh lets be fair they were wank :P

so when home pcs came out they cost a small fortune compared to a snes or master system

also most homes already had a tv in it non had pc screens so you have to add that on.

now we jump to the now pcs laptops and even tablets are coming right back into the price range because they have to

but because people have this idea drilled into there heads that pcs are big complex exspensive things (and they dont have a leading company to drive them) this probley wont ever go away.

you look at what apple did to be succesfull they had to break there image away from being associated with being a pc and lets be honest apples are just pcs for lazy or simple :P (not that im a apple hater)

laptops....... a apple laptop isnt viewed as a laptop its a imac..... pda .... its a itouch.... tablets.... its a ipad

success comes down massivly not on how good your product is but how the consumers image of the product is if that makes sense.

ps sorry for epic rant and tangent lol
 
name='thestepster' said:
at first when i got into it i would build the pc for gamin but right now kinda taken a back step and its mainly for folding@home i build mines for some gamin when im gettin flooded with bad work units like i was for the past 2 days (damn 105XX and 66XX realy hurts my ppd!)

PC upgrading can turn into an illness man, seriously. Before you realise it you are spending loads and loads of money chasing something that doesn't exist. Back when I was running a company (didn't own it, just managing it) I was earning stupid money. I was living at home paying something ridiculous like £35 a week. Every time a new CPU came out I would have it. Every time a new GPU came out I would have it. In the end I had so much cash falling around me that I would just build another complete rig so I could have AMD cpus and different GPUs. It was insane.

Thankfully all my parts were trade/cost so I always made money selling the machines on. But that's a habit/addiction that soon blew away in the wind when I got married. I mean damn, I actually owned a Celeron D with onboard graphics when I was married. Funny part was I was totally happy with that :D

I'm nowhere near as bad now. To be Crossfire 5770s is like having a Ferarri sitting on my desk. That coupled with the 940 and of course the X32 SSD kicking up it's backside it's ridiculously fast. I wouldn't dream of spending any more on a PC tbh. All you really get is higher framerates you can't even see. Good for bragging rights and bench scores but useless for anything else. I would rather be sat comfortably AT it than leaning over it with a screwdriver now.
 
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