MSI's CPU Guard 1151 will protect your CPU from bending

[realneil]

Someone, somewhere in the bowels of the Borg that is Intel, figured that it was a way to save some money on manufacturing costs.

I can hear it now, "It's good enough!"

Of course, they're probably sweating bullets right now.

 

[AlienALX]

Someone, somewhere in the bowels of the Borg that is Intel, figured that it was a way to save some money on manufacturing costs.

I can hear it now, "It's good enough!"

Of course, they're probably sweating bullets right now.

Of course they're not. They don't care lol !

 

[CreatiXx]

i too consider this a fault of intel imo. No i do not know how it gets manufactured, and why the pcb is thinner. But things only got more risky now of choosing a cooler and installing it.

I'm the kind of guy that doesnt want to make it to loose cause i dont want it to fall off and some coolers are damn heavy so they do need the right amount of pressure. But well yeah, just what is "the right amount". I just find it pretty lame

 

[AlienALX]

i too consider this a fault of intel imo. No i do not know how it gets manufactured, and why the pcb is thinner. But things only got more risky now of choosing a cooler and installing it.

I'm the kind of guy that doesn't want to make it to loose cause i dont want it to fall off and some coolers are damn heavy so they do need the right amount of pressure. But well yeah, just what is "the right amount". I just find it pretty lame

When those coolers were designed they were designed with the tensile strength of the CPU in mind. IE - it would have been very scientific and tests using all sorts of scientific meters would be used to measure the pressure being put on the CPU. And they would be designed so that everything stays where it is supposed to be.

Intel then release a thinner CPU sending pretty much every single company who make coolers back to the drawing board. And it's not Intel's fault somehow.

Sorry, but LMAO.

I think in the future when some one claims this isn't Intel's fault I am simply going to reply with the picture of the Haswell CPU sitting next to the Skylake one.

 

[TPC]

Until now, only Scythe were officially saying that their current coolers can cause trouble with Skylake CPU's. Anyone else was denying it and you better believe them.
Also the reason why Scythe has problems is because their coolers can be tighten up until the point where it would sit flush to the motherboards PCB, yes that tight! The only reason why it comes up now with skylake is because due to the thinner pcb the CPU bends earlier but all of that could have happend on Haswell or earlier before too if someone was dumb enough to use a drill to tighten the screws. (Nothing is thighter than a stripped screw aye?)

 

[JR23]

Is it even cheaper to make the substrate thinner? I would assume that entails increasing the density and that's something that nearly always adds expense. I'm sure it has an advantage besides cost otherwise Intel wouldn't have invested in changing their process and i'm sure they conducted their own internal testing.

JR

 

[AlienALX]

Is it even cheaper to make the substrate thinner? I would assume that entails increasing the density and that's something that nearly always adds expense. I'm sure it has an advantage besides cost otherwise Intel wouldn't have invested in changing their process and i'm sure they conducted their own internal testing.

JR

If they had increased the density then it would not bend, it would likely snap/shatter.

I would imagine it is still made out of the same material it was before, thus by making it thinner you make it cheaper. And unless good scientific evidence comes about that it is different then I will still feel the same.

Which of course would be all well and good had Intel fessed up beforehand and been honest about it (see also, GTX 970) but instead they will probably leave it for a while to fester, then come out with some lame crap excuse saying how they only did it to make things better for their customers (see also, GTX 970). And people will likely swallow it and lie down (see also, GTX 970).

 

[JR23]

If they had increased the density then it would not bend, it would likely snap/shatter.

I would imagine it is still made out of the same material it was before, thus by making it thinner you make it cheaper. And unless good scientific evidence comes about that it is different then I will still feel the same.

Which of course would be all well and good had Intel fessed up beforehand and been honest about it (see also, GTX 970) but instead they will probably leave it for a while to fester, then come out with some lame crap excuse saying how they only did it to make things better for their customers (see also, GTX 970). And people will likely swallow it and lie down (see also, GTX 970).

It has layers with traces just like any other PCB though right, it's not just a block of composite. Presumably it still has a similar amount of pins on both sides so however they worked out making it thinner was possible it must have come at a cost of investing some time and money.

I wouldn't really consider the GTX 970 issue a true scandal, the product supplied still met the specification in a less conventional way and the products people received were identical to the review samples. If the extra 512MB was missing from the PCB and had no way to be accessed I would understand. The other big difference is that issue affected all users of that product. The thinner substrate isn't really affecting anyone at all, with a decent properly installed cooler it doesn't present any issues. It really isn't the same scale of problem, it doesn't effect performance and it's not part of the specification of the product to be a certain thickness. One expects it to comply with Intel's own standards and it does.

JR