MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming Review

So why call it 'Gaming' and not just the Z87-GD65?

A little confused why the Asus MVIE got slated despite holding a number of Extreme OC records because it didn't add much gaming wise that cheaper motherboard did. But this board does almost the same thing and receives 10s across the board.

Simply put:
The MVIE carries the 'Republic of Gamers' branding, while it is aimed at overclockers and barely at gamers. Tom's sample of the Asus board was even so bad at overclocking that the GD-65 Gaming could reach the same clockspeeds. So... The GD-65 offers pretty much the same features and overclocking capabilites while costing half the money.

The reason the MSI board is called 'Gaming' is because gamers don't only overclock. Gamers need a solid internet connection (hence Killer the NIC) and want to enjoy lively sound without breaking the bank (hence the audio chip).
Those are the main features that make a board 'Gaming', not necessarily the overclocking :)

@AverageNinja, Thanks man, means so much! I want to thank everyone that made this possible! :')
 
So the 'Gaming' motherboard didn't kill the D3HP in the gaming benchmarks then?
In fact it just beat it in the artificial benchmarks?
And you'd pay £50 for that?

Surely if I was overclocking (and not worried about the cost) then I get the MVIE for benchmark runs since it hold world records in them? Didn't seem to help it's review score though.
 
So the 'Gaming' motherboard didn't kill the D3HP in the gaming benchmarks then?
In fact it just beat it in the artificial benchmarks?
And you'd pay £50 for that?

Okay, I'm going to try and explain it one more time.

The Gaming motherboard contains features that don't necessarily make the hardware connected to the board (like CPU and GPU) run faster but instead they offer extras like the better ethernet and audio solutions.

Benchmarks only rate the CPU, GPU and sometimes RAM. I don't even think audio is actually benchmark-able.
 
Tom's sample of the Asus board was even so bad at overclocking that the GD-65 Gaming could reach the same clockspeeds.

And he had a good MSI board (possibly). So the review was for that specific board rather than a general review for all MVIE boards (if we're saying it was a bad sample).

I think it only has 2 more SATA ports than the D3HP, which means 32TB instead of 24TB of storage. That's a lot of games, but possible I guess.

Onboard switches being handy? Inside a case or do most gamers use testbenches?

Maybe I am being hard on MSI, but I've had bad experiences with them in the past so find it hard to believe they've made the perfect board.

The Z87X-OC review seems to show the Gigabyte board beating the MSI board in a number of benchmarks too. It also has even more onboard buttons, an extra PCI-e slot and the stupid PCI brace and it cost £7.20 more and only gets a 9 for value. Presumably because of the lack of ASMedia SATA ports? It also hit 5.1GHz.

I'm wondering about the consistency of the scores.

On the plus side it seems whichever one I buy (and I do plan to buy one, maybe this is why it matter so much to me as it's not theoretical for me) should be ok.

The odd thing is that I consider £160 quite reasonable for a motherboard these days (since I bought the Rampage 4 Extreme), but not long ago £160 would've been too expensive to really justify when you can get something as close to it for around £100.

Also, you're a friendly bunch aren't ya!:p
While I may be having a go at the board I never questioned anyone's knowledge or made it personal. :sad:

Anyway, I'm gonna leave it now before you get really nasty. Besides it's not going to change anything, it's just a differing of opinions that's getting personal.
 
OK, I'm back but with a completely different Z87-GD65 related topic!

Firstly, I know TTL said this is for n00bs, but...
What is the CPU fan control like within the BIOS? The screenshots I've seen make it look better than any other BIOS I've seen in this regard. Is it good enough that you don't need to install the Windows software to control fans well? I read that you have to use sliders rather than dragging points on the graph and that's fine, but how many 'points' can you have on the graph? (I only need 3 - 5 depending on exactly how it works)
I believe I'm right in thinking that both CPU fan headers can be controlled based on CPU temp but have different graphs?

If I do need to install Windows software, can you instal lthe fan control part separately? (Currently using Asus AI Suite, which in general I don't use but FanXpert is nice)
 
OK, I'm back but with a completely different Z87-GD65 related topic!

Firstly, I know TTL said this is for n00bs, but...
What is the CPU fan control like within the BIOS? The screenshots I've seen make it look better than any other BIOS I've seen in this regard. Is it good enough that you don't need to install the Windows software to control fans well? I read that you have to use sliders rather than dragging points on the graph and that's fine, but how many 'points' can you have on the graph? (I only need 3 - 5 depending on exactly how it works)
I believe I'm right in thinking that both CPU fan headers can be controlled based on CPU temp but have different graphs?

If I do need to install Windows software, can you instal lthe fan control part separately? (Currently using Asus AI Suite, which in general I don't use but FanXpert is nice)
I don't know about that :/
You'd have to ask someone who has the board :)
 
Can some one explain 2 me what is their raid thing i want to know more and how do i use it can some one help before i buy this motherboard?
 
Can some one explain 2 me what is their raid thing i want to know more and how do i use it can some one help before i buy this motherboard?

You realize, according to your sig, you need a new CPU in order to use this motherboard right? Can't just throw in your current cpu..
 
Hi on their website the super raid it said it could ssd,msata so how can we use this with another ssd that has os on how can we use this super raid?
 
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