He's not innocent. You keep failing to understand this just because he's a kid. He could murder somebody and you'd basically let him go because he's just a kid? F that. Everybody is responsible. People think they don't need to be held accountable anymore.
If he has deliberately dodged around take-down notices and bans then he should absolutely be punished. There's really no question about that.
I absolutely agree. We've all been stupid. Been there, done that and got plenty of T-shirts (and sleepless nights obsessing over every little detail).
However when you get caught the punishment should fit the crime. I like to think I'm fairly liberal overall but I'm not so extreme as to excuse absolutely anything; hence the expectation of a fine for the parents as they are the ones legally responsible here and community service for the kid so he learns the lesson. That's just how the law works and it has to be consistent for everyone whether we like it or not. Change can come but it won't a quick process. I'd love for it to be, but it won't.
I certainly think calls to "ban him for life" and so on are going way too far. I get that we're all passionate about these things, hence being on this forum, but such extreme punishments are overreactions. I don't believe in most of our societies ideologies or direction but I have to believe that whoever passes sentence on this family can at least be fair and start moving towards a more understanding viewpoint.
I think being a parent, or, a guardian teaches people to be a little more lenient.
It is at that moment you realise that your own creation is not perfect.
My mother did flat out 100% to teach us right from wrong. Believe me, the poor cow worked herself so hard doing three jobs that she can now hardly move from osteoarthritis. However, at the same time she never stopped us doing anything (me and my brother) because she knew that if she pushed us we would likely do it out of spite like most of my so called "Good and perfectly behaved" friends.
Their parents thought they were perfect and never wrong.. Yeah, that is why most of them either ended up in prison or were actually worse than me FFS.
My mother once told me "If you get arrested I am not coming for you and you will go into care". And I knew she meant it, too. So I never got arrested. When something felt like it was even remotely coming on top I would just bail.
It's very easy to call for someone's head on a stick when it ain't your head or any one you know. Just like it's really easy to hate the mentally ill and dismiss them. One day you could be in that situation and you would soon learn.
Personally I think cheats on MP games should be banned from ever owning a pc or console for life and have cheat branded across their forehead
It legitimately scares the crap out of me that one day you will be old enough to vote.
if your ego is so diminished you need to cheat to feel good about yourself go see a shrink
That's quite offensive there. What if he has depression issues and never feels good about himself? not a nice affliction. I would much rather love myself and feel good about myself all day but for some it doesn't work like that.
Thanks for proving my point, though.
That's quite offensive there. What if he has depression issues and never feels good about himself? not a nice affliction. I would much rather love myself and feel good about myself all day but for some it doesn't work like that.
Thanks for proving my point, though.
I see what he meant by his comment. Just badly worded. Wouldn't call it offensive though.
C'mon Alien, you come out with some pretty bold harsh stuff too and then state people should get thick skin. But this is sidetracking now.
I still stick with my original point. I don't really see this as news. Underage and aware of his actions, yes. Punish him, yes. Mother defends him... theres a shock.
Outcome, he will get a slap on the hand and then its over and forgotten.
I don't have an overly lot of experience with depression
All this talk with 'What if' etc is bull. He cheats and keep making accounta to keep on cheating and makes a youtube video how to cheat.... ban for life.
Its like you park your car wrong and the police say ' Dont park there again' and you say ok and drive off. Now, you get a massive fine and you will REMEMBER that and most probably wont park there again. Pretty simple.
Oh you do make me laugh.
99% of the world lives a lie. They hate their job, hate their boss, hate their wife etc. Yet they smile and pretend, whilst their intuition basically lies to itself over and over.
We are taught to live with what we don't like and basically "Smile and get on with it". We are lying.
People cheat on a daily basis. They do it to get a leg up in the world. They tread on others, put other people out of business and so on. That is all perfectly acceptable in the capitalist world we live in.
Please, don't play "armchair judge" it just makes you look silly.
People do stupid stuff all of the time. Some can't help it, others just don't care.
BTW. Those who do the best in our society are the ones that can lie the best. That can pretend, kiss arse and so on. The better looking you are the more chance of doing well you have if you are good at lying etc etc.
In a world so broken it really isn't a great idea to throw stones in a greenhouse.
Oh you do make me laugh.
99% of the world lives a lie. They hate their job, hate their boss, hate their wife etc. Yet they smile and pretend, whilst their intuition basically lies to itself over and over.
We are taught to live with what we don't like and basically "Smile and get on with it". We are lying.
People cheat on a daily basis. They do it to get a leg up in the world. They tread on others, put other people out of business and so on. That is all perfectly acceptable in the capitalist world we live in.
Please, don't play "armchair judge" it just makes you look silly.
People do stupid stuff all of the time. Some can't help it, others just don't care.
BTW. Those who do the best in our society are the ones that can lie the best. That can pretend, kiss arse and so on. The better looking you are the more chance of doing well you have if you are good at lying etc etc.
In a world so broken it really isn't a great idea to throw stones in a greenhouse.
Ok now you are just being silly and over exaggerating stuff. 99%?
Uk may have a p*ss poor mentality towards many things (one of the reasons i left that country) but don't try stating the whole world is like this. You get out of life what you put into it. There are millions of jobs which people enjoy, colleagues who are great, bosses who go above and beyond for their customers and employees. Yes we live in a corporate world but that does not mean that way of life, trickles down to your average joe.
I love my job, my colleagues are great, my boss is "Mr Suave cool guy". Its been like that in the last 3 jobs I have had over the 9 years living here. Then you start going on stereotyping that good looking people that will do better? give me a break... all these things you state. I would say prove it! or its just bad opinions of the world and the people.
I busted my a** going from working in a graveyard to a salary way above Norwegian average. You're telling me I kissed a** to do it? You are obviously angry about something, but do yourself a favour, stick to the topic of the thread, or just stop replying and go cool off like you said.
Nope I am spot on. That is humanity as a whole. I can't even watch things like Blue Planet without seeing the damage we have done to the world.
It's even worse these days with the "every man for himself" attitude. At least back in the 70s and 80s if something bad happened people would rally around to help etc. Now? hardly any one even knows their neighbours, let alone personally.
Hopefully within the next 20 years I will be gone any way, so I don't have to look at this sad, broken carcass of a world that my grandfather spent nearly a year of his life in a POW camp desperately trying to defend. With his life.
And what for? so our politicians could give it away to every one but us, to sell property to people who do not even live in this country. Don't tell me, I am a flag waving thicko with an IQ of 80?
Then lie about the properties they are building for the less fortunate and committing genocide on the mentally ill.
Everything these days all revolves around one person. Marriage is now a joke.. Seriously, don't get me started. I've not even warmed up yet.