WYP
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The son created YouTube videos teaching people how to install cheat software in Fortnite.
Read more on this mother's response to Epic Games.
Read more on this mother's response to Epic Games.
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Mother defends her Fortnite cheating son from Epic Games lawsuit
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TheF34RChannel
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Still being breastfed as well I reckon...
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Lol
" It is my belief that due to their lack of ability to curve cheat codes and others from modifying their game"
Yeah because professional software developers don't know how to implement a basic feature. Maybe she should give alternatives if she's so smart? Yeah next time you have to enter your Social security number or your birth certificate. Seems WAY more reasonable than opting to NOT enter that and let people play farily.
It pi$$es me off that I've seen on FB and everywhere else how Epic is in the wrong because he's a child. Um news flash people you could be a 4 year old genius for all I care. If you are cheating and doing illegal things after being warned, you deserve punishment. Does this kid deserve prison? No. But he has earned a massive fine and should do tons of community work.
" It is my belief that due to their lack of ability to curve cheat codes and others from modifying their game"
Yeah because professional software developers don't know how to implement a basic feature. Maybe she should give alternatives if she's so smart? Yeah next time you have to enter your Social security number or your birth certificate. Seems WAY more reasonable than opting to NOT enter that and let people play farily.
It pi$$es me off that I've seen on FB and everywhere else how Epic is in the wrong because he's a child. Um news flash people you could be a 4 year old genius for all I care. If you are cheating and doing illegal things after being warned, you deserve punishment. Does this kid deserve prison? No. But he has earned a massive fine and should do tons of community work.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
You're analogy is poor. He didn't stuff fake money under a board. He quite literally broke the law AND took advantage of people AFTER BEING WARNED ABOUT LEGAL ACTION. He MADE THE SOFTWARE. You learn ethics in programming. He obviously missed that class or just didn't care and taught himself how to cheat the system and make money from doing. It doesn't get more deliberate than that. So let him go because he didn't know better? BS. How much do people need to hold children's hands these days?
His mom deserves punishment too.
huh?
So you are saying that a Mother defending her child is bad? My god, when did that become newsworthy.
Yes, punish the son, sue him for his exploitations. I see nothing wrong with this. But to make a news article about a Mother defending her son is a bit OTT. Since when does a mother not do so? the boy is 14 yrs old for god sake.
While I see nothing wrong with going after him for what he did, why are people suddenly blasting the mother for protecting her own blood...
So you are saying that a Mother defending her child is bad? My god, when did that become newsworthy.
Yes, punish the son, sue him for his exploitations. I see nothing wrong with this. But to make a news article about a Mother defending her son is a bit OTT. Since when does a mother not do so? the boy is 14 yrs old for god sake.
While I see nothing wrong with going after him for what he did, why are people suddenly blasting the mother for protecting her own blood...
WYP
News Guru
The mother defending her son is not a bad thing. It was her letter to the court that brought the fact that the defendant was 14 to light.
I don't disagree with the mother here, she is right to feel the way that she feels and to defend her son from this huge corporation.
This presents a very interesting legal case, as it was the child's refusal to accept Epic's takedown claim on YouTube that forced them to sue him. While he is a minor, that doesn't mean that the law should not apply to him.
Now that I agree with. In a world of technology where you can effectively be doing basic hacking the moment you learn how to turn on a computer, no one should go unpunished. Games and its industry has been ignored far too long. People mock mature adults who game/program failing to realise its become a recognised sport/mainstream entertainment/fully immersive (VR) and highly exploitable industry.
When you can introduce any age to basic hacking or create subliminal gambling via transactions, it needs more moderating and changes to the law.
We even have adderal taking pro gamer cheaters now, match fixing, too. Hell.. even drugs testing needs to be introduced to tournaments to counter the twitch/reflex enhancing drug.
CreatiXx
Member
We all hate cheaters once we face them.
His account has been banned several times, he makes youtube videos, he has made a new account every single time.
He is fully aware of what he is doing and that its wrong. Should he just be protected against everything just because he is a kid, because of his age?
That would be very easy for the future, ouh *** its a kid, cant do anything against you, just go ahead and ruin it any further!
As said before by some one else, prison no, community work and fine - yes!
His account has been banned several times, he makes youtube videos, he has made a new account every single time.
He is fully aware of what he is doing and that its wrong. Should he just be protected against everything just because he is a kid, because of his age?
That would be very easy for the future, ouh *** its a kid, cant do anything against you, just go ahead and ruin it any further!
As said before by some one else, prison no, community work and fine - yes!
looz
Active member
"The big issue here is that the defendant did not create the cheat codes he used within Fortnite and neither did he make any money from his YouTube videos directly, though he reportedly asked for donations."
Also, I don't get how cheating in video games is a legal issue. Or even developing them.
Greenback
Active member
If you read it, it's about Epic dmc'd his video showing how to use the cheat and he countered, the only way Epic have to take the video down is through the courts
Personally I think cheats on MP games should be banned from ever owning a pc or console for life and have cheat branded across their forehead
AlienALX
Well-known member
He's 14 years old. At 14 years old I was a drug addict and used to huff paint thinners and etc. Or are you telling me that children these days must immediately grow into adults when they are 12?
There is a reason you lot do not let people drink until they are 21.
Ed. At 14 I was still chasing my mates around the park with dog poo on a stick.
That is a mother's instinct. Hell, mine still tries to fight my battles now and I am 43. I just politely remind her that I am an adult, and thank her for caring so much.
There may well be other factors at play here, too. The kid could have ADHD, be autistic, be Aspie etc etc. I have studied autism for ten years but I have learned more from observing other aspies than any of that junk. They either seem to be hard line "Right and wrong" like me (never ripped off any one in my life, send photos of parcels and tracking etc etc) or, have terrible trouble deciphering right from wrong.
I saw this aspie kid take nearly £5000 for arcade machines he didn't even have.
However, I still maintain he is a child. Both physically, mentally and above all legally ! in the UK if you commit crime as a child it is all wiped off of your record when you are either 16 or 18 and you have a clean slate.
Rules were made to be broken. Also, what about all of the times where some 8 year old kid spends like £3000 on micro transactions using their parents phone, and then the company says "Well you should have put a password on it !".
Greedy companies.
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Tricky thing to debate. Techincally yes it is a legal issue since it deters paying customers from playing knowing there are cheaters ruining the experience.
If those players then tell others, "dont bother with fortnite, too many hackers and cheater" then sales slump, so its a loss of earnings.
I don't see a difference between someone advertising how to cheat (even if free), and also someone making money off it like the company who was sued by Blizzard. Either way it does cause an impact on sales. If a cease and desist has been issued and not complied with, then doesn't matter what age they are. Legal action should be taken.
often you can ban and ignore, but when this little s**t persistently created accounts to continue to ruin the game for others, then something needs to be done.
The_Governour
New member
Ban for life and he should be made an example off. Cheating is a NO. No matter what age.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Yes let's bring back stocks and throwing rotten tomatoes at people. Whilst we're there let's start hanging people again too, especially when they are innocent. Those were the good old days
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Yes let's bring back stocks and throwing rotten tomatoes at people. Whilst we're there let's start hanging people again too, especially when they are innocent. Those were the good old days
He's not innocent. You keep failing to understand this just because he's a kid. He could murder somebody and you'd basically let him go because he's just a kid? F that. Everybody is responsible. People think they don't need to be held accountable anymore.
Daiyus
Member
If he has deliberately dodged around take-down notices and bans then he should absolutely be punished. There's really no question about that.
The nature of that punishment will be based on the fact he is a minor and his location so I suspect a large fine to the parents and community service for himself.
Sure his mother has every right to defend him, and if it was my daughter I'd be doing my level best to reduce the implications. That said I wouldn't be letting my daughter ignore legal notices in the first place and I would teach her to accept the consequences that did come against both of us if we both failed in our parts. I'd like to think I've raised her to be responsible for her actions and will continue to do so. I hope due to this she wouldn't keep things like this secret from me.
Sure there's the argument that at 14 it's actually very difficult to monitor your child, particularly online (I've yet to reach that point, my daughter is 5) so maybe there does need to be some change to how these notices are issued to include parents directly when issued against minors.
The nature of that punishment will be based on the fact he is a minor and his location so I suspect a large fine to the parents and community service for himself.
Sure his mother has every right to defend him, and if it was my daughter I'd be doing my level best to reduce the implications. That said I wouldn't be letting my daughter ignore legal notices in the first place and I would teach her to accept the consequences that did come against both of us if we both failed in our parts. I'd like to think I've raised her to be responsible for her actions and will continue to do so. I hope due to this she wouldn't keep things like this secret from me.
Sure there's the argument that at 14 it's actually very difficult to monitor your child, particularly online (I've yet to reach that point, my daughter is 5) so maybe there does need to be some change to how these notices are issued to include parents directly when issued against minors.
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