Microsoft with some Cool Vista Announcements

Well I might be going out on a limb here, but I think this will be MS's last chance to get it right. If they get it right on all fronts, Apple and Linux may well lose out big time. But if they get it wrong, Apple and Linux will continue to erode away MS's dominance as the OS of choice. I mean MS has already stepped down or compromised on a number of fronts; namely security, WinFS and driver signing.

I think that MS have been out of control for the last 6 years, and they certainly lost their direction for some time. I mean think of the companies who have already forked out serious cash as part of their rolling license agreement. And yet, they see the real business benefit coming from Office 2007 and Office server first, neither of which require Vista on the desktop. Why would you have a major Windows release in third place? Does this mean that the days of having a new core OS are over and done with? Just my 0.02 worth
 
name='PV5150' said:
Well I might be going out on a limb here, but I think this will be MS's last chance to get it right. If they get it right on all fronts, Apple and Linux may well lose out big time. But if they get it wrong, Apple and Linux will continue to erode away MS's dominance as the OS of choice. I mean MS has already stepped down or compromised on a number of fronts; namely security, WinFS and driver signing.

I think that MS have been out of control for the last 6 years, and they certainly lost their direction for some time. I mean think of the companies who have already forked out serious cash as part of their rolling license agreement. And yet, they see the real business benefit coming from Office 2007 and Office server first, neither of which require Vista on the desktop. Why would you have a major Windows release in third place? Does this mean that the days of having a new core OS are over and done with? Just my 0.02 worth
I couldn't agree more. If Microsoft messes it up this time, it's their last strike. After that, linux and apple would slowly begin to take more and more market share, this OS release being the pivotal point.
 
name='PV5150' said:
Well I might be going out on a limb here, but I think this will be MS's last chance to get it right. If they get it right on all fronts, Apple and Linux may well lose out big time. But if they get it wrong, Apple and Linux will continue to erode away MS's dominance as the OS of choice. I mean MS has already stepped down or compromised on a number of fronts; namely security, WinFS and driver signing.

I think that MS have been out of control for the last 6 years, and they certainly lost their direction for some time. I mean think of the companies who have already forked out serious cash as part of their rolling license agreement. And yet, they see the real business benefit coming from Office 2007 and Office server first, neither of which require Vista on the desktop. Why would you have a major Windows release in third place? Does this mean that the days of having a new core OS are over and done with? Just my 0.02 worth

Very good points. :worship: It does seem to me that MS has a lot riding on this one. I personally am rooting for them, so I hope Vista comes out as good as I think it looks
 
If you can download vista, then would you not be able to pay in American dollars, rather than pay for the more expensive version in pound sterling?

Lastly (I really hope I read this wrong), can people in the US really buy 2 vista premiums for the equivalent of just £25 each? That's just silly, and retail too I assume.
 
name='ajbrun' said:
If you can download vista, then would you not be able to pay in American dollars, rather than pay for the more expensive version in pound sterling?

Lastly (I really hope I read this wrong), can people in the US really buy 2 vista premiums for the equivalent of just £25 each? That's just silly, and retail too I assume.
I would assume so yes. And yes $50 each along with the purchase of Ultimate Vista
 
On the strike thing i really hope they get it right. Ive been Windows since i started with PCs and idk if i could handle using something else and starting all over again. They suck but Microshlong FTW. I probably wont be upgrading till SP1 anyways so i should like it as soon as i install. (Beta2 left a nasty taste in my mouth)
 
name='Kempez™' said:
But the step-down and up makes sense to me. Obviously a company will want to get people to pay as much as they can get, but at least they do offer more basic versions for those who aren't willing to spend the money

Apple release a new OS practically every year and people have to buy that...at least that doesn't happen.

Ah well I'm sure you're all gonna jump down their throats now for wanting money after investing billions of dollars in development in a new OS. Yes MS want money but they're a company and if I was Bill, I'd be damned if I didn't do the same thing

I`d spend a further billion on finding out why it costs my company billions to produce such a thing, cos frankly that`s rediculous. We`re not sending rockets to Saturn here.

The basis for the majority of the codings already exist, to a very arguable extent we`re massaging them. Couple with the fact that the communications needed to be made, and a great deal of the coding exchange is done `internally` - we don`t have that many competitive OSs we need to backup - well we don`t have any accept our own.

New integrated technologies being introduced would be an expensive pursuit I`d imagine, something like a USB3.0 - but the vast amount of companies that wish to have their products future-working with our OS, pretty much are at our disposal as without us they will not have a market to sell to. As we`ve arranged.

If we`re spending billions on anything other than advertising and lawsuits/takeovers, I`d want an itemized account. And donuts aren`t tax deductable.

name='MikeEnIke' said:
I couldn't agree more. If Microsoft messes it up this time, it's their last strike. After that, linux and apple would slowly begin to take more and more market share, this OS release being the pivotal point.

Nah, this sorta thing would take a decade to become a reality. There are far too many businesses, households, industries - that have pcs-WinOS laced through their veins, including those using servers that have totally moved away from anything linux related.

It would cost the industry multiples of imaginable funds to switch to a dependant MAC platform, linux less so, but the infastructure would have to be changed again, in some cases back to what they were. With prehaps a few sighs of releaf at some ports, but the whole thing would be an excessive venture.

M$ would have to go bust, with no support for anything like this to even remotely be entertained. Even then, companies will continue to use server2003, win2000, XP as their platforms well into 10 years after Vista is about. Companies would evolve into m$-benefactual-support-agencies, to try and cover up the service that is missing.

Jees, wouldn`t it be a very very rude awakening for the world if m$ was found to be.... I don`t know "tax fiddling"... for the last 15 years or so and the US government shut them down totally.

lol scarey for some executives I can tell u.
 
Microsoft's Virtualization Layer?

name='F-Secure' said:
SubVirt is a new proof-of-concept rootkit created by Microsoft Research and the University of Michigan. The idea is to install a rootkit that inserts itself at a lower level than the OS and then give the user a virtual machine environment that if successful, looks just like their own. An inexperienced user then might never realize that they aren’t really in control, and all of their software defenses might not realize it either.

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There has been a lot of speculation and rumours that something similar to this will feature in vista as part of the anti-piracy windows activation software. Being a virtual layer below the OS, making it untouchable by anything inside the OS.
 
name='Kempez™' said:
Doubt we'll be able to buy US content. If we do we'll have to pay VAT for the privilege

How will they know where in the world we are? I suppose we'll find out next Tuesday :).
 
name='ajbrun' said:
How will they know where in the world we are? I suppose we'll find out next Tuesday :).

Don't you have regional areas on activation aswell as timezones in control panel?
 
name='ajbrun' said:
How will they know where in the world we are? I suppose we'll find out next Tuesday :).
Well if nothing else they could tell by IP and such, but either way if what kemp said is true, you may be able to get an American mate to buy it for you and such, although I don't know the legality of that or if it would be easy to send to you, or even give you the direct download link.
 
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