Microsoft is pulling the plug on Windows 7?

[Damien c]

I hated Windows 8 but when Windows 8.1 came out I was determined to give it a try and after a week, I had found everything I needed and had the Asus Rog theme installed, so I was happy.

Every now and then I will give Windows 7 a run but I always now find myself going back to Windows 8.1

 

[SeekaX]

I am inclined to fight you all when it comes to windows 8.1, but we had that discussion before more than once.
Win8 offers nothing Win7 doesn't, Win7 supports more games and programs, unless Win7 turns into a huge security breach i won't switch.
Fuck touchscreens and easy access. Fuck tablets, fuck smartphones, mouse and keyboard ftw.

 

[barnsley]

I am inclined to fight you all when it comes to windows 8.1, but we had that discussion before more than once.
Win8 offers nothing Win7 doesn't, Win7 supports more games and programs, unless Win7 turns into a huge security breach i won't switch.
Fuck touchscreens and easy access. Fuck tablets, fuck smartphones, mouse and keyboard ftw.

I don't like touch screens either.

I'd be suprised if anyone here is actually running windows 8.1 that isn't exactly like 7.

 

[Dicehunter]

I am inclined to fight you all when it comes to windows 8.1, but we had that discussion before more than once.
Win8 offers nothing Win7 doesn't, Win7 supports more games and programs, unless Win7 turns into a huge security breach i won't switch.
Fuck touchscreens and easy access. Fuck tablets, fuck smartphones, mouse and keyboard ftw.

Win 8.1 has better performance for games, That part cannot be argued against no matter how you decide to spin it *Not you but anyone*

And as has been said MANY times before, If you know how to skin and tweak you can get it to look and feel exactly like W7.

My Win 8.1 install looks exactly like my Win 7 install, No metro interface, no touch screens, just a normal Windows.

 

[barnsley]

Win 8.1 has better performance for games, That part cannot be argued against no matter how you decide to spin it *Not you but anyone*

Still some issues with older games though. I'm pretty sure COD4 and ARMA 2 don't like it (think they've fixed arma though).

 

[SeekaX]

Win 8.1 has better performance for games, That part cannot be argued against no matter how you decide to spin it *Not you but anyone*

And as has been said MANY times before, If you know how to skin and tweak you can get it to look and feel exactly like W7.

My Win 8.1 install looks exactly like my Win 7 install, No metro interface, no touch screens, just a normal Windows.

CoD4 doesn't work = i am not going to use that OS. Not sure if Quake 3 works either.
I get my 125fps solid in the games i play, i couldn't care less about a 2% increase.
What is the point of making Win8 look like Win7 if i can just have Win7 instead.

 

[barnsley]

CoD4 doesn't work = i am not going to use that OS. Not sure if Quake 3 works either.
I get my 125fps solid in the games i play, i couldn't care less about a 2% increase.
What is the point of making Win8 look like Win7 if i can just have Win7 instead.

There are ways to get 4 to work on Windows 8 but it involves compatibility stuff it seems.

 

[cooperman]

Sounds like microshaft going back on there word to me DX12 i am pretty sure is classed as a performance update and thay did say it was going to be avalable in w7.

 

[Dicehunter]

CoD4 doesn't work = i am not going to use that OS. Not sure if Quake 3 works either.
I get my 125fps solid in the games i play, i couldn't care less about a 2% increase.
What is the point of making Win8 look like Win7 if i can just have Win7 instead.

You have to look at the bigger picture and not just 2+ games that you can't get to work which infact do work with some tweaks.

Windows 8 is better for higher resolutions, Fact.

There was an extensive benchmarking session done on another forum with resolutions of up to 4K and the frame times were all faster on W8.1 vs W7 i.e lag and input lag which I know you of all people hate lag

Any performance gain is welcome and it will only get better as time goes on.

 

[SeekaX]

You have to look at the bigger picture and not just 2+ games that you can't get to work.

Windows 8 is better for higher resolutions, Fact.

There was an extensive benchmarking session done on another forum with resolutions of up to 4K and the frame times were all faster on W8.1 vs W7 i.e lag and input lag which I know you of all people hate lag

Any performance gain is welcome and it will only get better as time goes on.

CoD4 and Quake 3 are the games i play every day for years already, i wouldn't drop them for a performance increase at a resolution which in my opinion is completely pointless at the moment anyways.
I need a reliable OS, i can't be bothered to deal with a half arsed OS that only excels at very modern things.
Win7 is a well rounded OS while Win8 has rough edges everywhere, it's the same reason why i stick to Intel and nVidia (i think i just opened the pandora's box), i like well rounded packages which i can rely on in every situation.
Other than that i don't appreciate the direction in which Windows is going, i want tablets/smartphones and PCs to stay separated.

 

[barnsley]

Win7 is a well rounded OS while Win8 has rough edges everywhere, it's the same reason why i stick to Intel and nVidia (i think i just opened the pandora's box), i like well rounded packages which i can rely on in every situation.
Other than that i don't appreciate the direction in which Windows is going, i want tablets/smartphones and PCs to stay separated.

I'll ignore that comment

Looks like 9 will be more up your street. It seems that it'll detect what device it is and act accordingly. That said I hope linux takes off for gaming.

 

[Damien c]

COD 4 works fine for me other than not being able to play on some PB servers due to it now being missing, from the PBSetup.exe file and I cannot be bothered to go searching for the files to fix it.

Not tried Quake 3 though so cannot comment on that.

My Windows 8.1 install though is not using any of the Startisback type app's so I have the Metro interface there if I choose to use it, but I very very rarely even touch that since most of the times everything is on the desktop, as I don't mind having icons everywhere.

If I wanted to get rid of the icons then I would probably get a app like Rocketdock or what ever it's called, that Dicehunter is using.

 

[Dicehunter]

CoD4 and Quake 3 are the games i play every day for years already, i wouldn't drop them for a performance increase at a resolution which in my opinion is completely pointless at the moment anyways.
I need a reliable OS, i can't be bothered to deal with a half arsed OS that only excels at very modern things.
Win7 is a well rounded OS while Win8 has rough edges everywhere, it's the same reason why i stick to Intel and nVidia (i think i just opened the pandora's box), i like well rounded packages which i can rely on in every situation.
Other than that i don't appreciate the direction in which Windows is going, i want tablets/smartphones and PCs to stay separated.

Again you have to look at the bigger picture, Yes you like to play the ancient games and that's fine but newer versions of windows bring with them performance improvements and if the community is vocal enough then MS change certain things so the customer will buy them.

And something which has been stated MANY times, The touch screen feature of Windows is also built into Windows 7 not just windows 8, Separate from Metro.

Also apart from the very first time I installed W8, I have never seen the metro/touch interface again, At all.

 

[SeekaX]

COD 4 works fine for me other than not being able to play on some PB servers due to it now being missing, from the PBSetup.exe file and I cannot be bothered to go searching for the files to fix it.

Not tried Quake 3 though so cannot comment on that.

My Windows 8.1 install though is not using any of the Startisback type app's so I have the Metro interface there if I choose to use it, but I very very rarely even touch that since most of the times everything is on the desktop, as I don't mind having icons everywhere.
Also Win7 doesn't encourage you to use touchscreens, win8 does.

If I wanted to get rid of the icons then I would probably get a app like Rocketdock or what ever it's called, that Dicehunter is using.

http://eu.cybergamer.com/files/6409/

Again you have to look at the bigger picture, Yes you like to play the ancient games and that's fine but newer versions of windows bring with them performance improvements and if the community is vocal enough then MS change certain things so the customer will buy them.

And something which has been stated MANY times, The touch screen feature of Windows is also built into Windows 7 not just windows 8, Separate from Metro.

Also apart from the very first time I installed W8, I have never seen the metro/touch interface again, At all.

The bigger picture doesn't do anything for me. I don't benefit from the knowledge that my OS performs better at 4k. Microsoft won't change shit because the demand for compatibility for those games isn't high enough.
To me Windows 8 is just Windows 7 with a bunch of added problems and Microsoft's first real try to merge tablets and PCs. 4k benchmark results don't change anything about that.

Give me a proper reason to uninstall my perfectly working Windows 7 and install Windows 8, do a whole lot of tweaking etc. Surely it can't just be just irrelevant benchmarks?

 

[Dicehunter]

http://eu.cybergamer.com/files/6409/



The bigger picture doesn't do anything for me. I don't benefit from the knowledge that my OS performs better at 4k. Microsoft won't change shit because the demand for compatibility for those games isn't high enough.
To me Windows 8 is just Windows 7 with a bunch of added problems and Microsoft's first real try to merge tablets and PCs. 4k benchmark results don't change anything about that.

Give me a proper reason to uninstall my perfectly working Windows 7 and install Windows 8, do a whole lot of tweaking etc. Surely it can't just be just irrelevant benchmarks?

I think something is getting lost in translation here, I'll space out the words a bit more for you

Windows 8.1 is better for the high resolution stuff, Not just benchmarks but actual gameplay, Frame times, Input lag etc... ergo I went over to it as I have a 4K panel, If I didn't have a 4K panel I would of stayed with W7.

I have never said "You must go to W8.1" Just saying higher res than 1600p is better with W8.

 

[SeekaX]

I think something is getting lost in translation here, I'll space out the words a bit more for you

Windows 8.1 is better for the high resolution stuff, Not just benchmarks but actual gameplay, Frame times, Input lag etc... ergo I went over to it as I have a 4K panel, If I didn't have a 4K panel I would of stayed with W7.

I have never said "You must go to W8.1" Just saying high res is better with W8.

So you basically just dropped to win8.1 is only better if you want to play games at 4k res. Smooth move.
That is only literally a big picture though, most people don't use 4k and won't for a long time.

 

[Dicehunter]

So you basically just dropped to win8.1 is only better if you want to play games at 4k res. Smooth move.
That is only literally a big picture though, most people don't use 4k and won't for a long time.

Dude it doesn't matter what I say, As per usual you will react to it in an aggressive manner fishing for aggro.

 

[SeekaX]

Dude it doesn't matter what I say, As per usual you will react to it in an aggressive manner.

How is that even aggressive.
Opposing your opinion != aggressive.

 

[DisturbedJim83]

Win 8.1 has better performance for games, That part cannot be argued against no matter how you decide to spin it *Not you but anyone*

And as has been said MANY times before, If you know how to skin and tweak you can get it to look and feel exactly like W7.

My Win 8.1 install looks exactly like my Win 7 install, No metro interface, no touch screens, just a normal Windows.

I think the main point of those against Windows 8(myself included) is why should i have to waste my time "tweaking and skinning" because some idiot a MS was under the delusion that all PC users have a touchscreen monitor or want their PC to work like a tablet.

Yes Windows 7 have support for Touchscreen, however its not invasive or obnoxious like it is in 8 come to think of it unless you know where to look you'd never know it was there since its disabled by default.

I use 7 Ultimate on my PC and its easy to use, my dads laptop however uses 8 and both He and I have on numerous occasions found ourselves so enraged we almost shot it through a Window because in its default state basic functions like Control Panel are a pain in the butt to find in most cases requiring going through that blasted metro interface unlike 7,just thinking about that blighted O.S makes my blood boil.

 

[Dicehunter]

How is that even aggressive.
Opposing your opinion != aggressive.

It's just the way you word things seems very aggressive, Others not just me have commented on it in the past when you got very offensive when someone mentioned refresh rates lol