Looking for suggestions for custom PC for use with Poser 10 & Lux Renderer

NeverBackDown said:
18 cores is way too much. The rig i linked earlier is solid but room for improvement. I was only going based off of $1500. Take a look if you haven't already.
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Lux Render actually uses all those cores. So its not 'way too much'. This isn't gaming :P.



For Lux you need as much memory as you can get. 32gb is ideal. Its a program that actually does better if you have a render farm then if you have a couple of decent GPUs.
 
barnsley said:
Lux Render actually uses all those cores. So its not 'way too much'. This isn't gaming :P.



For Lux you need as much memory as you can get. 32gb is ideal. Its a program that actually does better if you have a render farm then if you have a couple of decent GPUs.
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It is to much. Did you not see his budget? Clearly it is not gaming...
 
NeverBackDown said:
It is to much. Did you not see his budget? Clearly it is not gaming...
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Yeah, but saying that the pc's 18 cores are 'too much' is BS. I believe I've misunderstood what you were saying in retrospect. I thought you were saying they'd not be used by the program or something along those lines.

Yes, I did read the thread. Hence why I made comments about the whole render farm thing. What I meant is that GPU is not as important with the programs he uses. For the price of a couple of 290s it'd be more cost effective to buy a couple of 8320es...

Here is my attempt, I went for an older 2011 platform as the rendering at the resolutions he wants to do can use up to 12gb of ram. The case can be swapped for a source 210:
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2620 2.0GHz 6-Core Processor ($391.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 87.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($49.90 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X79A-GD45 Plus ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($128.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Directron)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-BL ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.98 @ Directron)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1505.75
 
barnsley said:
Yeah, but saying that the pc's 18 cores are 'too much' is BS. I believe I've misunderstood what you were saying in retrospect. I thought you were saying they'd not be used by the program or something along those lines.

Yes, I did read the thread. Hence why I made comments about the whole render farm thing. What I meant is that GPU is not as important with the programs he uses. For the price of a couple of 290s it'd be more cost effective to buy a couple of 8320es...

Here is my attempt, I went for an older 2011 platform as the rendering at the resolutions he wants to do can use up to 12gb of ram. The case can be swapped for a source 210:
CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2620 2.0GHz 6-Core Processor ($391.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 87.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($49.90 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI X79A-GD45 Plus ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($128.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES.3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.98 @ Directron)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-BL ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.98 @ Directron)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1505.75
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Take a look at the Lux GPU link. They are working towards a GPU only renderer and they've got stats on the performance increase of 3x 7950s.
 
SPS said:
Take a look at the Lux GPU link. They are working towards a GPU only renderer and they've got stats on the performance increase of 3x 7950s.
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5-10x when it works is quite the upgrade :o. I was aiming for a strong cpu and a decent GPU with my proposed build but it looks like I'm going to have to tweak it some more.
 
I think a 6 core cpu and something along the lines of at least 280x in CF is a minimum for the fastest performance.. But with such a limited budget those alone take up more than half.
 
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hRv8yc

Went with a Xeon E3 because since you are rendering, you don't really benefit too much from the CPU but more from the GPU. the MB supports 1 extra 290x in the future if you wanted I guess :P

btw there is a 4k Dell 28"monitor for $350~ on Amazon right now :P
 
Not worth the money at all. Besides Lux has stated than any AMD card before the 5000 series is almost gaurenteed to case issues. Its not support by AMDs drivers anymore.

What we have recommended is much more powerful anyways. "workstation" builds are always so expensive for the extra features they provide. You can always counter that with cheaper longer lasting non workstation builds that still provide more power.

Do you not know how to build your own PC? Is that why you looked at a prebuilt one?
 
I am not too pc savy as what bells and whistles are what. I can replace the parts no problem, My son can as well, and his knowledge base is pretty good, since he built his own pc. But his is more geared for gaming. I have run a few benchmark renders on his pc to see the difference, and while it is a vast improvement from my current rig I am wanting to optimize more geared to rendering than gaming since about the only game I have interest in is FF online, and I would rarely have time to play it, since my work in 3d modelling, rendering will take up 90% of my time since it is my source of income.

I have never built my own pc, so there I have no knowledge other than the kiddo explaining the parts as he ordered it for his. He however uses dual monitors ect, and is in more need of the gaming side than a rendering engine.

As for the premade pc, I was curious, as if it would be equal to the performance of the rigs I have seen as posted by yall. As for what's to date and what's not I have no clue other than seeing the posts of reviews on FB and the forum for here.

I do try to follow, sorry if the ignorance factor kicks in. But yes, this will be my first non factory built pc, which is why I am asking yall's opinions of the systems, and for the help in getting a decent render engine going, in which I can speed up my production. The rendering is what is slowing me down from putting out more, which will yield more income for even better upgrades in the future.

I thank you all for the imput, I greatly appreciate it.
 
Its really not difficult:)

Don't use the "gaming" generalization as much though. It's a PC.. it does everything lol:p

While the hardware we choose and showed you is generally marketed as "gaming", they certainly can do rendering as well! A lot of folks will buy the same hardware as we linked and use it gaming and rendering videos. They serve more than one purpose.

If it is a lot for you, wonders of google and youtube outta set you straight. If not, then you can ask your son to help you. You can always ask for advice on here too. We've all done it too. If you are really stuck. Take a picture and upload it here and we can probably tell you what to do.
 
Appreciate the responses I do, and I did not mean to offend anyone by using the gaming term or as a generalization. If I did, sorry bout that. I figured there was a difference where some specs only applied to that instead of what I use a pc for. Hell I do fall into that category of gamer generalization though, my games are more the old school D&D, Magic TG, and Vampire The Masquerade. :)

Trust I won't hesitate to ask, when I am about to order the parts. If something makes no sense. I do try and google or youtube before I ask, but this is kinda a new frontier for myself. (Building Your Own)

Again I thank you for your time and responses, and if anyone was offended by the gaming terms, I apologize whole heatedly.
 
No one was offended. Don't forget you are going to want to buy a Windows 7 license/disc if you don't have one already. Those can be quite expensive but on ebay you could easily find full non oem 64bit key/disc for around $100. It is better than OEM you buy from an online retailer.
 
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