It looks like Borderlands 3 will be an Epic Games Exclusive on PC

It's times like these I'm glad I've got such a big backlog of games to work through. I haven't finished Borderlands 2 or The Pre-Sequel yet so it'll be over a year past launch when I finally get around to considering buying Borderlands 3. I'll see what the situation looks like then. Assuming it's on multiple stores at that point I'll probably just get it wherever it's cheapest.
 
It's times like these I'm glad I've got such a big backlog of games to work through. I haven't finished Borderlands 2 or The Pre-Sequel yet so it'll be over a year past launch when I finally get around to considering buying Borderlands 3. I'll see what the situation looks like then. Assuming it's on multiple stores at that point I'll probably just get it wherever it's cheapest.

Thank you. Finally someone with simple logic. All this "not on steam, so not gonna buy" nonsense is starting to really get to me, for its idiocy. Odd thing is that I don't know why such a thing is annoying me. Maybe I just get frustrated at illogical reasoning.

I have seen it on the Metro exodus posting.

"prices on games are so expensive now, I know its on epic cheaper, but im not going to buy it until it comes to steam. Don't care if I pay extra."
- O.o The stupidity of man.
 
I don't really think it's stupidity or lack of logic though. Some people are just attached to their Steam libraries, and enjoy how easy it is to migrate an entire games library from one PC to another when upgrading. It's just more efficient if all your games are under one roof, so to speak. Me personally, I don't care much where the game comes from, but I understand why people may prefer to have one game system thingy and not 3 or 4.
 
Everybody already has 3 or 4 that's the thing. Most people already have Fortnite on Epic Store. It makes literally 0 sense to boycott for there reasons.

The other stupid reasons I see are "they sell your data to China". So dumb. Everything device controls your data and sells it to the highest bidder.
 
I wouldn't mind buying on Epic if they offered a better deal than Steam or if Borderlands IP belonged to them. Same with any other store. But they're trying to FORCE ME to buy something from them that should be widely available. They're limiting my options and they want me to pay them for the privilege. That's not gonna happen. I will play Borderlands 3 one way or the other, but I'll never purchase it from an anti-consumerist platform.
 
To be fair they technically did a good chunk of the development work, and given the 23% lower cut taken via Epic store as a result of them waving the license fee for their engine I doubt it'll be the same price as Steam.
 
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Meh if it's half as good as BL2 I'll happily pre order.

As if I'd cut my nose off to spite my face on a game as promising as this.

You guys do what you like, but I'm having some of this. Biggest promise for a decent game in years.
 
My only issue with epic store is the app is bad and until I enabled two factor I was getting an absolute ton of failed logins, so until the app is better and security is better I won't use it.

The biggest reason is them buying exclusives trying to force users onto there platform I get why they are doing it, but I don't like it as for where a publishers personal choice of selling there game that isn't an issue for me.

But I am yet to see how as a customer it's a good thing for me they offer nothing for me to want to be there I don't get cheaper games, I don't have anywhere near the features of steam and yes having all your games in one place and installing them instantly on a new pc upgrade fresh install of windows is a huge time saver.

So exactly how is this better for me I don't goto tesco's or elsewhere cause they pay the produce makers more for there milk (thou they should) this whole help the devs mentality isn't part of my thinking it's a new concept and I've been playing games since the 2600.

If you want me to use the store make everything better in every way and maybe then I'd be willing to give it a chance, I'm not anti other apps I use uplay and origin bnet GOG but the Epic app and store is worse not better and has a long way to go.
 
I wouldn't mind buying on Epic if they offered a better deal than Steam or if Borderlands IP belonged to them. Same with any other store. But they're trying to FORCE ME to buy something from them that should be widely available. They're limiting my options and they want me to pay them for the privilege. That's not gonna happen. I will play Borderlands 3 one way or the other, but I'll never purchase it from an anti-consumerist platform.

How is that any different to what steam has done for years and years? No one complained about that. Furthermore, people happily paid the overpriced costs.

Also unless Epic has put your own welfare at stake, then there is no anti consumerism at play from them. They aren't forcing you to buy it. They have just limited your option for 6 months. Steam are the anti consumerists and i am surprised people are oblivious to seeing this.

They have even been investigated by the EC for anti competitive practises. Blocking cross border activations = anti consumerist actions. They were geo blocking, or preventing purchases based on where you were.

Bought a key in russia cheap? tough luck, you cant use it in EU, even if its a legit purchase in every way. Living in UK but see your fav game is cheaper on the Germany store? TOUGH LUCK Steam dont allow it. That in itself is breaching EU policies. How many of you have bought things from another EU country and imported it to UK? plenty of you. Its allowed afterall, but Steam block it and that to me is disgusting.
 
No failed logins, and I expect there to be cloud saves by September. That really is the only complaint I have about Epic. I don't want it to make me coffee or give me BJs behind the bike sheds but cloud saves are critical when you have two rigs at two separate addresses like I do.

I wanted to slit my throat having to sit through 3 hours of Metro cut scenes twice...
 
How is that any different to what steam has done for years and years? No one complained about that. Furthermore, people happily paid the overpriced costs.
Valve didn't force anyone to sell their games only on Steam. And since it was the only digital store available, how could anyone expect to buy a game from another digital store? In fact, Steam was the only store that I could even buy games from back in the day. I couldn't get a physical copy in my neck of the woods. Other than pirated crap, of course. Other than that, it provided a useful service that I wanted to use. Anyways, you can't complain when there's no other choice. You sure as hell can when choice exists, and someone is actively trying to take it from you. And on top of that what they offer is worse than competition. They care more about catering to publishers than consumers. Why on Earth would I ever support a company like that?
 
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Because it's far healthier for the industry when artists & publishers get the money from their work & can reinvest it in more software & staff rather than a single company taking a third of the PC gaming industries revenue and blowing all the cash on repeated failed hardware vanity projects, one of which was in an attempt to gain a complete monopoly away from Microsoft. You could realistically argue that a smaller developer has no choice but to avoid selling on Steam now in order to have a commercially viable game if they want to work on it properly post-launch, the cut Steam take could pay for countless salaries, most small studios don't last very long in this cut throat industry and Steam's a big contributor to that in a fair few ways.

Avoiding Epic because it doesn't have enough features yet is fair enough, avoiding it because you think having a healthy industry with cash flowing to the right places is anti-consumer is crazy. (It's not, the benefits to developers don't take long to trickle down to consumers, and the harm to developers also trickles down to consumers in many ways, not least in countless studio closures & a reliance on microtransactions for financial viability)
 
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I wouldn't mind buying on Epic if they offered a better deal than Steam or if Borderlands IP belonged to them. Same with any other store. But they're trying to FORCE ME to buy something from them that should be widely available. They're limiting my options and they want me to pay them for the privilege. That's not gonna happen. I will play Borderlands 3 one way or the other, but I'll never purchase it from an anti-consumerist platform.



Valve didn't force anyone to sell their games only on Steam. And since it was the only digital store available, how could anyone expect to buy a game from another digital store? In fact, Steam was the only store that I could even buy games from back in the day. I couldn't get a physical copy in my neck of the woods. Other than pirated crap, of course. Other than that, it provided a useful service that I wanted to use. Anyways, you can't complain when there's no other choice. You sure as hell can when choice exists, and someone is actively trying to take it from you. And on top of that what they offer is worse than competition. They care more about catering to publishers than consumers. Why on Earth would I ever support a company like that?


And this is exactly why i will not bow down to Epic and i will wait for borderlands 3 to be available elsewhere, which yes means waiting 6 months, but i don't really care, there are other games to play, other things to do, patience is a virtue and i apply it because of the business decisions of a storefront to which i strongly disagree with.
 
Because it's far healthier for the industry when artists & publishers get the money from their work & can reinvest it in more software & staff rather than a single company taking a third of the PC gaming industries revenue and blowing all the cash on repeated failed hardware vanity projects, one of which was in an attempt to gain a complete monopoly away from Microsoft. You could realistically argue that a smaller developer has no choice but to avoid selling on Steam now in order to have a commercially viable game if they want to work on it properly post-launch, the cut Steam take could pay for countless salaries, most small studios don't last very long in this cut throat industry and Steam's a big contributor to that in a fair few ways.

Avoiding Epic because it doesn't have enough features yet is fair enough, avoiding it because you think having a healthy industry with cash flowing to the right places is anti-consumer is crazy. (It's not, the benefits to developers don't take long to trickle down to consumers, and the harm to developers also trickles down to consumers in many ways, not least in countless studio closures & a reliance on microtransactions for financial viability)

Apparently that is selfishness and greedy to people here...
The money Steam take is disgusting just for hosting games on their platform.

Also, I would rather support an upcoming launcher that is trying to force competition, than an unregulated launcher like steam which allowed games involving killing students at a school, a serial killer that rapes characters in which you control the killer, over one hundred thousand copies and replicas that flood the store just for profit, and scam. These may have got removed, but they should never have been allowed in the first place.

As its been mentioned, saying no to purchases on Epic due to key features missing is understandable. The launcher is in its infancy. However, boycotting epic purchases just because its not on steam, or review bombing old steam games because they transitioned to Epic launcher or others, is just childish and moronic. Take offense all you want, because its true. Some people act so immature because they don't have their way...

And you can thank EPIC for the Steam launcher overhaul. Steam would not have changed it or improved it, had the competition not been there. Steams layout was archaic and horribly designed. So already we see competition has a positive effect.
 
Don't get why people are singing Valve's praises tbh.

On the flipside, when Steam launched I paid $50 for HL2. I rushed home, excited to all buggery and then realised that I needed the internet to set up Steam and activate HL2. Just one problem, at that time I was without the internet as I couldn't afford it.

So, I had to phone my ex wife's cousin, get him to come over in his car and pick me up, pack my desktop PC into his car and then go over his house. Do you think I was happy about that? or really annoyed?

I also think that Steam has been a major distraction from Valve, and that we would see more games from them if they weren't taking it from every one else and seemingly sitting on their backsides. Sure, they're making a VR helmet (please note there is some sarcasm here) that no one wants but IMO they'd be better off not stepping out of the gaming arena for the best part of a decade because they are aces at making games.

Funny how people have rose tinted specs for Steam, when in the beginning it was nothing but an annoyance and remained so for a couple of years. Why? because it was always the cheaper option to just go out and buy the game from GAME or some one until around 2012 when finally the prices fell in to suit. Irony being that you got home and put in a Steam key, then threw away the disc and everything else that were part of the cost.
 
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