Is the new Pentium as good as it looks you decide

i must say i have been following this chip

and may well jump ship

but will only do it when i see shimino, kingpin and others move to intel untill then i will just watch and wait
 
bazx said:
i must say i have been following this chip

and may well jump ship

but will only do it when i see shimino, kingpin and others move to intel untill then i will just watch and wait

I am certainly not rushing to get this, in fact it's fair to say I am waiting for the 2nd generation of AM2 CPU's to be released (65nm possibly nore cache too) before I make my next upgrade.

I think the point here is that at stock - the 3d scores dont look as impressive as the superpi - having said that these units overclock madly so I would expect that an uber clocked unit will be faster than the x2, purely because it can clock higher.

Lets not forget that these units are lower power and lower heat too, so even waterboys will reap in the reward of this CPU and the leccie bill will be lower too.

Mav
 
I've heard they arent effected by the cold bug - but i cant remember who told me this. At stock they arent that impressive in 3d although with much lower heat output they will shine once they are clocked.
 
also in all fairness a Yonah is not a conroe desktop chip... conroe is like merom...which is about 20% faster than yonah....so we cannot look at these numbers and say thats what desktop conroe will be like at all....

a conroe or merom will hand that yonah its ass on a plate :)
 
Yonah looks like it doesnt scale all that well with an overclock? (2nd picture)

Also keep in mind that the differences between Yonah and the AMD X2 are done with mature drivers and architecture on the AMD part, whereas Yonah is more-or-less new, and not being taken "all that seriously" by Intel and mobo makers, who are more interested in Conroe.

Congratulations to Intel though on achieving roughly equivalent performance on a CPU running about 1GHz lower. :)
 
K404 said:
Yonah looks like it doesnt scale all that well with an overclock? (2nd picture)

Congratulations to Intel though on achieving roughly equivalent performance on a CPU running about 1GHz lower. :)

Fair comment - but we don't know from those pics which GPU is used, so is it possible that the GPU had reached it's limit?

And I agree, these tests are done on a board which no doubt is working on a release BIOS and that the chipset drivers need to mature a couple of revisions before we see true results - the scale could be down to release bugs that need ironing out before we see the true scaleability of these.

Mav
 
name='Phil Stanbridge' said:
I've heard they arent effected by the cold bug - but i cant remember who told me this. At stock they arent that impressive in 3d although with much lower heat output they will shine once they are clocked.
Here still with stock hsf and single 1900xtx..

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1957414

screenshot0142cu.jpg
 
Out of interest what does the 60 score at the same speeds?Bet you cant wait to stick it under the yellow box!!

And is that max overclock?
 
scorchio said:
Out of interest what does the 60 score at the same speeds?Bet you cant wait to stick it under the yellow box!!

And is that max overclock?
It scales to 3.3Ghz with 1.5Vcore maxed in bios. It needs vcore mod to >1.5V to go higher.
 
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