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Does AMD have an answer to Intel's next-gen i5?
Read more about Intel's aggressive Raptor Lake i5-13600K.
Read more about Intel's aggressive Raptor Lake i5-13600K.
Intel's i5-13600K could be trouble for AMD
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AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Does anyone else have the worrying feeling that AMD won't bother trying to compete with the 13600K because they now have the mind share?
AlienALX
Well-known member
No.
I will tell you why, too. AMD's mindshare is made from china. It will take one move from Intel to absolutely smash their party to pieces.
Think to yourself how many years AMD would need to smash Nvidia in the GPU war before they even got a fair slice of the pie. And then think just how quickly that would evaporate if Nvidia came back with something killer.
Its the same or worse with Intel. They had, quite probably, the biggest fanboy cult EVER. Stupid people got proven stupid time and time again, but then AMD came back with a product that was better. However, that fanboy mentality never EVER goes away. They just sit in wait until Intel are top of the roost again, then AMD will slide down the slippery slope faster than you can say hyperthreading.
Nvidia will always be the biggest name in GPUs no matter how crap they get or are, and the same goes for Intel with their CPUs.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
If you're right then it's gonna be an epic time for consumers when it comes to processors. I could keep my DDR4 memory and splurge for a 13600K and see a HUGE performance uplift. Or see a HUGE uplift and get a (likely) cheaper 5800X3D and keep my DDR4. Or splurge for DDR5 and AM5 and get a better value 7600X and invest in a longstanding platform with a clear upgrade path. Choices are awesome!
AlienALX
Well-known member
Yup it's fantastic. I have also been terribly impressed by Intel's new image tbh. Gone is the loud mouth, and has been replaced with a company that actually listens. So nothing bad could have ever come of it. I really like how they have sent their engineers out to talk shop on their forthcoming GPUs too. GN had a super video up the other day of the guy who invented XMP who now works for Intel's GPU dept.
Any one who has known me for more than ten minutes knows that I HATED Intel. However, going from my 3950x to a 12700KF netted me huge gains, even at 1440p. Not only that but they have their own fabs, so whilst AMD were still over charging for their CPUs that you couldn't even get I went out and got a nice cheap 12700KF about five days after launch for less than they are selling for now.
See, that's another ace card Intel have - their own fabs. They rely on absolutely bloody no one else.
Oh yeah, the Linus videos where he went to Intel in Israel were pukka too. Like I said, I really like their new image.
Dawelio
Active member
...and along with all of the issues of a new platform, ie being a beta tester for the company as well. When you've already given them your entire wallet essentially ^_^
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Yeah, I'd be happy to go back to Intel at this stage. I would like to stick to AMD, and I'm hesitant to presume the worst for AM5/DDR5/Zen 4 and any teething issues it will have, but it would save a lot of money if I didn't have to buy DDR5. To be honest, I could just get a cheap 5600 and still see an enormous jump in performance from a 1600X.
KingNosser
Well-known member
My personal thoughts, not intrested in AMD or Intel until late generations at this stage even when it comes to GPU's my current setup is fine for years so they can wait.
Until there are actually games and such that requier new hardware what is the point for me, hell a 970 is still useable so i feel anyone on current gen is fine your get by don't waste money each upgrade.
Sure enthusiasts mindset is new tech buy it and while I am enthusiastic on tech i don't upgrade often enough to shell out for a few fps it's just not worth the cost, maybe more so once a next gen of consoles arrives and lets face it by then it's not cheap at all.
So while they will be worthy upgrades i'd rather wait for the real deal value to come around on bigger more worthy upgrades i'll notice than 20fps extra.
Until there are actually games and such that requier new hardware what is the point for me, hell a 970 is still useable so i feel anyone on current gen is fine your get by don't waste money each upgrade.
Sure enthusiasts mindset is new tech buy it and while I am enthusiastic on tech i don't upgrade often enough to shell out for a few fps it's just not worth the cost, maybe more so once a next gen of consoles arrives and lets face it by then it's not cheap at all.
So while they will be worthy upgrades i'd rather wait for the real deal value to come around on bigger more worthy upgrades i'll notice than 20fps extra.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Yeah, anyone with a Zen 3 or 12700K won't need to upgrade. I have a 1600X and a GTX 1080 though. ^_^
