Intel's Cascade Lake-X pledges to shatter Threadripper's value proposition

[WYP]

Intel expects a 70-109% increase in performance per dollar with Cascade Lake-X.



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[Gothmoth]

benched before or after the dozend security patches?......

 

[smilertoo]

maybe too late

Unless the new Intel has amazing performance my next buy will be AMD; Intel sat on their hands milking customers for too long and AMD deserve sales for not holding back.

 

[hdimitrov]

Soo first of: "between 74% and 209% more performance-per-dollar" I think you mean between 74% and 109% more.
Second: Good for Intel to boost their ego by beating last-gen AMD. I'm sure Threadripper 3 will be on-par with this if not even faster.

 

[demonking]

So have Intel and AMD traded places with there over exaggerated claims? I'd guess that this will be on a specific work load and will not take into account both next gen tr and the guaranteed requirement to need a new socket.
Trying to do the maths on this basing it on the current 2990wx is £1500 but struggling whilst I'm at work but it looks as if it's going to have to clocked significantly higher, priced a lot lower or contain a hell of a lot of cores if not all to reach those claims

 

[WYP]

So have Intel and AMD traded places with there over exaggerated claims? I'd guess that this will be on a specific work load and will not take into account both next gen tr and the guaranteed requirement to need a new socket.
Trying to do the maths on this basing it on the current 2990wx is £1500 but struggling whilst I'm at work but it looks as if it's going to have to clocked significantly higher, priced a lot lower or contain a hell of a lot of cores if not all to reach those claims

Intel has been speaking a lot about "real world" performance. Ultimately it depends on what they test. Threadripper can fall short in a lot of applications due to its multi-die nature. That said, Threadripper beats Skylake-X in Intel's numbers, so it must be a mix of factors.

AMD plans to release the Ryzen 3rd Gen 3950X soon, so that is the new 16-core that Intel needs to compete with. It is only a matter of time before Threadripper is replaced.

Between Ryzen 3rd Gen and next-gen Threadripper Intel needs to decrease their pricing of X299 hardware. This way, Intel has spoken about their price cuts early so that it is seen positively. They don't want this to be seen as "we are reacting to AMD".

 

[Emu]

Soo first of: "between 74% and 209% more performance-per-dollar" I think you mean between 74% and 109% more.
Second: Good for Intel to boost their ego by beating last-gen AMD. I'm sure Threadripper 3 will be on-par with this if not even faster.

My 3900x at stock with a dodgy BIOS has about double the performance of my overclocked 2700x in Cinebench despite my 3900x only having 4 more cores. AMD would have to really screw up badly with Zen 2 Threadripper to not see them have a similar uplift over Zen+ Threadripper...

 

[Giggyolly]

Yes this says nothing about core count. Could be another 18 core, but at a cheap price and that would tick the double performance per dollar claim.

 

[WYP]

Yes this says nothing about core count. Could be another 18 core, but at a cheap price and that would tick the double performance per dollar claim.

I don't see core counts increasing with Cascade lake. This is definitely a price/clocks thing. At least that's how I see it.

 

[dazbobaby]

and it only took a year for intel to catch up... meanwhile AMD are about to launch the next TR.


Even intel are making themselves look irrelevant.

 

[Giggyolly]

I don't see core counts increasing with Cascade lake. This is definitely a price/clocks thing. At least that's how I see it.

I foresee a 2nd refresh of the I9-7980xe, but this time at half the price haha

 

[looz]

and it only took a year for intel to catch up... meanwhile AMD are about to launch the next TR.


Even intel are making themselves look irrelevant.

To be fair it took AMD 10 years to catch up after Nehalem release.

 

[RobM]

Note Intel eagerly state which AMD CPUs yet fail to mention which Intel ones are in the graph.
I believe that is also from the same presentation deck that compares "Real world" on the desktop yet reference data from laptops.
Anything coming from Intel needs taking with a large sprinkle of salt, same for AMD.