Intel's 8-Core Haswell-E coming in Autumn, but at what cost?

[RickPlaysWarr]

Hi

Very interested in these processors -- are they staying with the 2011 socket so that existing cooling options will be available?

--Rick--

 

[DiyEyal]

Hi

Very interested in these processors -- are they staying with the 2011 socket so that existing cooling options will be available?

--Rick--

Yes and no. The socket is LGA 2011-3 so it's not compatible with X79 motherboards. But cooling should be the same..

 

[KamikazeRedneck]

What will the nm size be? Is it going to match the X79's? Is the only upgrade going to be the DDR4? I can't see any upgrades in PCI-express 3.0. I would only consider upgrading to the new chips if they made substantial upgrades with the PCI-E. It seems that is only a 4960X with DDR4 capability.

 

[DiyEyal]

What will the nm size be? Is it going to match the X79's? Is the only upgrade going to be the DDR4? I can't see any upgrades in PCI-express 3.0. I would only consider upgrading to the new chips if they made substantial upgrades with the PCI-E. It seems that is only a 4960X with DDR4 capability.

The upgrade is more cores!

 

[Zoot]

The clock speeds are a little disappointing. I can't help but be underwhelmed.

I was hoping for something like the i7-4820k with the high clock that has, but just 3.2GHz on the 5820k doesn't make me want to upgrade from my FX-8350 very much.

 

[WYP]

The clock speeds are a little disappointing. I can't help but be underwhelmed.

I was hoping for something like the i7-4820k with the high clock that has, but just 3.2GHz on the 5820k doesn't make me want to upgrade from my FX-8350 very much.

That really depends on how far these can overclock.

Imagine those potential gains!

 

[Kushiro]

Whether or not you upgrade always comes to personal preference/needs, after all it is your PC. Besides if all you do is game on your fx-8350 there is actually minimal incentive to pick one of these up.

Also I doubt anyone who buys these CPU'S will be running them at those clock speeds anyway haha.

 

[RamboOC]

Whether or not you upgrade always comes to personal preference/needs, after all it is your PC. Besides if all you do is game on your fx-8350 there is actually minimal incentive to pick one of these up.

Also I doubt anyone who buys these CPU'S will be running them at those clock speeds anyway haha.

8 core intel running at 5ghz will probably be like almost twice as fast compared to 8 core amd fx cpu , not to mention the TDP of the intel will be a lot lower

 

[Kushiro]

But the question remains would that be enough of an insentive to pour all that money into it when his 8350 is able to handle their needs?? That was what I was trying to say.

 

[Zoot]

That really depends on how far these can overclock.

Imagine those potential gains!

Whether or not you upgrade always comes to personal preference/needs, after all it is your PC. Besides if all you do is game on your fx-8350 there is actually minimal incentive to pick one of these up.

Also I doubt anyone who buys these CPU'S will be running them at those clock speeds anyway haha.

Yeah I'm not much of an overclocker, don't really see the point in it anymore hence why I like CPUs with high out of the box clock speeds. If the 4790k was DDR4 capable, I'd be all over it.

I tend to like to keep my systems for a very long time hence my waiting for DDR4. My secondary system (which I still do a fair bit of gaming on) with an AMD Phenom II 955, 790FX board and a GTX 560 is nearly 5 years old now and still going strong!

8 core intel running at 5ghz will probably be like almost twice as fast compared to 8 core amd fx cpu , not to mention the TDP of the intel will be a lot lower

TDP doesn't matter unless you're running it at 100% 24/7. People get so excited about power consumption, I'll never understand it.

Heck even the rather high 220W of the 9590 doesn't really matter as long as the motherboard is able for it. Graphics cards easily dwarf that figure, not many people moan about those.

 

[RizeAllard]

I am waiting for the 5930 to replace my current x58 system.
After 4 years the time has come to refresh the base of my system.
Unfortunatly theres no AMD option at HEPC segment these days, but I
like those A series APUs which are runing now. I built a lot of systems on then and they are fairly enought for everybody in most of the cases.
If someone want a real gaming rig an i5-4570K is more than enought.

Many of us just buy these monsters because of fun and want to show off... Only 1 or maximum 2%-of HEPC-s are used for working.

Thats why I use FAH or BOINC on my rigs as well.

I hope AMD could came out a Highend C(A)PU in the close future... I want to see some competition in this segment too. We the costumers just can win on that....

 

[barnsley]

8 core intel running at 5ghz will probably be like almost twice as fast compared to 8 core amd fx cpu , not to mention the TDP of the intel will be a lot lower

It won't be that spectacularly faster as very few things use the full 8 cores of the 83xx/9xxx. Then again now intel do an eight core people will start to care about core usage.

 

[Wraith]

Things are quiet on the AMD front, the next bulldozer series core will be excavator, but from then who knows.

AMD haven't talked about anything beyond excavator for years, which makes me think a new core architecture is coming.

This much is true, it has been very quiet on the AMD home front for too long now... I wouldn't be surprised if they just release the next CPUs right out the blue.

 

[WYP]

This much is true, it has been very quiet on the AMD home front for too long now... I wouldn't be surprised if they just release the next CPUs right out the blue.

Exactly, there isn't even much news of a excavator based replacement for Kaveri.

Even the Excavator was talked about since bulldozer was announced, and hasn't been even mentioned since Kaveri. Somethings up, but there is currently no information out there to even speculate what is going on.

A new architecture seems likely in the next year, or at least an announcement anyway. Guess we will just have to wait and see, we will all be fighting over who gets to report on it first LOL .

 

[Wraith]

I'm taking AMDs silence as a good thing, unlike their Radeon marketing department who just love the media and teasing.. So like you say I guess we'll just have to wait and see what late Q4 or 2015 brings. I'm anticipating good things.