Intel's 18-core will not be released alongside their X299 platform

I've been extremely tempted several times to go Ryzen, although I haven't due to funds being snuck at the moment (but do have them), but mainly cause only one mITX motherboard exist on the market for Ryzen and no good low profile coolers for it. Which has a max height of 48mm with a fan (for the Dan Case A4 SFX case). If it were, I'd totally go Ryzen.
 
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In my case, I went from a:

i5 4670k + 780/fury x @1080p @144hz

To

I7 5820k (@4.6 oc) + 1080ti @3440 UW

I mostly game but I also stream and render videos. I would look into the 7820k but it seems very similar to the 5820k in terms of pcie lanes etc.

If I would upgrade then it better be something better than my 5820k - and around the 500€ range.
 
In my case, I went from a:

i5 4670k + 780/fury x @1080p @144hz

To

I7 5820k (@4.6 oc) + 1080ti @3440 UW

I mostly game but I also stream and render videos. I would look into the 7820k but it seems very similar to the 5820k in terms of pcie lanes etc.

If I would upgrade then it better be something better than my 5820k - and around the 500€ range.

I doubt you would get anything out of upgrading right now since your only path would be the i9 7800X which is within your tolerance of cost. But it's still a 6/12 core CPU with 28 PCI lanes. Considering your overclock you would probably be forced to deal with de-lid that new CPU and it's questionable if you would get any performance out of it for gaming and streaming (I'm quite certain you won't). Wait another 2 years :)

Edit: Performance as in you can really feel the difference. Of course there would be some performance increase.
 
Why Kaby Lake-X??

This truly baffles me too.

They already have 1 mainstream lineup, why break into the HEDT, making motherboards both physically and from a software perspective more complicated while breaking out of the mainstream lineup while adding just, and JUST TDP... It truly makes no sense, none!

Why tim (I want to know the real reason regardless I accepted it)??

One very simple answer to this that nobody seems to think. Warranty. Intel had absolutely no method of telling if their processors were overclocked to the extremes or not, to the points where the electronics can get hurt or lose significant life span. So they introduced TIM, a thermal interface here good enough for out of box Boost and small margins of overclocking, but not to the extreme limits of the CPU; only bound by cooler quality at that point.

So now anybody who wants to unlock their CPU performance to its true limits with overclocking as best as they can with a given cooler has to delid because the TIM is a bottleneck here in cooling otherwise, regardless of cooler quality and/or size.

Delid and the CPU is out of warranty, overclock it all you want, but if you kill it, Intel does not have to replace it. Unlike how they used to have to.

Prices could/should be more aggressive rather than arrogant.

That's just Intel for you. Trying to make the best they can from fanboys and the misinformed. Around me, there are very technical people compared to the general popularity who still think AMD is problematic and/or bad in performance compared to Intel. AMD has been in the game for just about what, 3 months? That is not a time enough to lure away the general popularity yet, it has been enough for the enthusiast market only, yet. Hence Intel can still play this card.


Not to mention, don't forget that AMD is still just a CPU manufacturer in this comparison. I am a researcher in visual cognition and some new technologies I have to use, for instance, run only on Intel. I also run some of the infrastructure of my department in the university and not a single AMD server exists for me to buy from Supermicro, HP, IBM or alike while my university doesn't allow me to use custom built PCs for these due to servicing and contracts.

So Intel still has these places to ensure that people will HAVE to pay them that 200$ premium on occasion.

Why JUST target the mainstream? I can understand their point.


On another word, I cannot wait for threadripper to retire my HEDT Intel and just have a mainstream Intel for those technologies I have to use for research.

I look so forward to a 32 thread PC where I can do all my gaming, virtualization, servers, mining etc. all in one place instead of 3 different computers.
 
new cpu's

So I have to spend a 1000 US to get a cpu that will sli two video cards and raid two m.2 Nvme ssd's...I'll be looking at 2000. Canadian just for the motherboard and cpu... Do I at least get a lifetime subscription to jugs magazine? We do wonder about this stuff...Four out of five voices agree.
 
So I have to spend a 1000 US to get a cpu that will sli two video cards and raid two m.2 Nvme ssd's...I'll be looking at 2000. Canadian just for the motherboard and cpu... Do I at least get a lifetime subscription to jugs magazine? We do wonder about this stuff...Four out of five voices agree.

2 way SLI works fine on PCI-E 3.0 X8/X8 leaving plenty of lanes for SSDs.

The real point people are making is intel are taking the micky with their pricing for what you get.

The only people who would be interested in running 2 way SLI at X16/X16 are ultra hardcore benchers and even then the difference in performance is a tiny fraction so small it is difficult to measure.
 
I totally agree with Kaapstad. And as i said in another thread, not everyone is at a super tight budget. So if Intel the 8 and 10 core Intel actually can go to 4,7+ then you actually get something for your money.

It like that in all aspects of life. The last 10% performance cost A LOT. But someone is willing to pay it. Just within Intel themselves
7740X 339$
7820X 599$
7900X 999$
Who really NEEDS a 10core. Its more nice to.
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Even in a CPU heavy game. I would go from 100 to around 110 FPS from a upgrade to 7740X
And in editing tasks its cheaper to find software that supports GFX acceleration.
 
I notice a trend with many new members coming on and disliking stuff, from games to hardware?

Im a new member.. I think i need to start disliking stuff :)

I think Skylake X and kaby lake X are great.. for the consumer and the market. We are moving towards a more level playing field where competition and price will be key and we are moving away from Intel's monopoly and price fixing because they were the only player in the enthusiast market.
5% performance increases will no longer be acceptable for the extra cost and outlay. The Ryzen launch has been incredible for the consumer in pushing Intel to respond and examine their position and kaby lake x and skylake x are great examples of that

I miss the days of pentium 4 and amd64, where each manufacturer would look to leap frog the other with each generation. I hope we are getting back to seeing real competition again in the CPU market
 
Im a new member.. I think i need to start disliking stuff :)

I think Skylake X and kaby lake X are great.. for the consumer and the market. We are moving towards a more level playing field where competition and price will be key and we are moving away from Intel's monopoly and price fixing because they were the only player in the enthusiast market.
5% performance increases will no longer be acceptable for the extra cost and outlay. The Ryzen launch has been incredible for the consumer in pushing Intel to respond and examine their position and kaby lake x and skylake x are great examples of that

I miss the days of pentium 4 and amd64, where each manufacturer would look to leap frog the other with each generation. I hope we are getting back to seeing real competition again in the CPU market

Ha ha ha! Nah, just something I observed, not everyone of course.

It's 12 June, NDA lifted, no reviews on the Internet? Must be a time thing then?
 
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