Intel delays its 7nm node - The company's roadmap is broken
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The only problem is the worse Intel gets the more cocky & arrogant AMD will get.
We've already seen the early signs of it with Zen 3 backwards compatibility on older B450 boards, needing a consumer outcry for them to backtrack.
Whilst we're still along away from Intel levels of arrogance whilst AMD were in the CPU wilderness, they won't be able to help themselves if Intel keeps falling behind.
..and Intel will still have their server cash cow income to fall back on whilst they sort themselves out on the desktop space, which I don't think they're really all that bothered about, TBH.
We've already seen the early signs of it with Zen 3 backwards compatibility on older B450 boards, needing a consumer outcry for them to backtrack.
Whilst we're still along away from Intel levels of arrogance whilst AMD were in the CPU wilderness, they won't be able to help themselves if Intel keeps falling behind.
..and Intel will still have their server cash cow income to fall back on whilst they sort themselves out on the desktop space, which I don't think they're really all that bothered about, TBH.
RobM
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Doubt they will hold on to that for much longer.
Has nothing to do with arrogance, its all about monopoly. Even if AMD were the proverbial gods gift to the world, we cant have one dominating a complete market. Especially when there are only two main players.
Domination in that respect slows down progress. Why innovate when there is no competition?
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
Maybe I'm wrong about this and being overly idealistic, but I don't believe every company in a dominate situation will stop pushing themselves. I mean, take Nvidia as an example. Every generation for the last ten years has been at least innovative, and in most cases has been exemplary. Yet in all that time, they've held market dominance. I know that these businesses are run not just by a passion-driven engineers, but by investors and conglomerates that could care less what they were selling as long as it sold. But there must be companies out there, even big ones, that are driven by more than just an ideal revenue target. I would say AMD and Nvidia fall into that category. I imagine many of the influential heads in those companies don't want to hold back technological advancements. I imagine many of them want to release stellar products if they can, even if they don't technically need to.
I get what you are saying, but at the same time, they don't need to push themselves if they don't need to. They can hold onto the tech for years if they want, and only use it when a rival begins to catch up.
Look at Nvidias tactic of holding off with certain models, or releasing the 20xx super. They could have pushed this out from the start. Maybe Innovate was the wrong word, because it could well be they have the tech for running at twice the speed of today. But keep it quiet, for good reason.
Let's say it like this then. Without competition, you only get incremental steps pushed to the market. RTX was great, but performance wise it didn't bring much. And it didnt need to because it was the only one of its kind. If you wanted ray tracing, you had no choice to go green team.
