Intel accelerates 7nm Plans, 10nm will be a short lived node

You can smell the panic from here lol!

All great for competition though so good luck Intel & Keep it up AMD
 
You can smell the panic from here lol!

All great for competition though so good luck Intel & Keep it up AMD

They are not panicking. We are just not used to hear this much from intel. Few rumors here, and there. AMD is spamming with announcements, and they are releasing Zen 2. This is just so there won't be all AMD stories in the news.

Intel and Nvidia are still dominating. AMD knows that. That is why you see them compete in mid-low tier. Old time news like: "Nvidia releases the world's fastest GPU!" Next week: "AMD GPU beats Nvidia flagship", are long gone.

The bestest, no compromise builds still won't contain AMD hardware... Sadly...
 
They are not panicking.

lol for real? you actually believe that?

They hired the guy that designed AMD's Zen to come in and help. They've put millions of dollars down the bog, and AMD Are about to go 7nm on the cheap. And you don't think they are panicking?

I'd hate to see them with real problems :D
 
Not on these timescales, TSMC already has EUV in use for four non-critical layers in the 7nm+ node currently entering mass production and arriving to consumers in products in Q3 of this year with the Huwaei Kirin 985 SoC. TSMC 5nm looks to be the first true full EUV mass production node, it's already in risk production and uses EUV across 14 layers for a 45% area reduction, entering mass production in around a year and expected to arrive to consumers around Q3 2020. By the time we reach 2021 TSMC will be on their third generation EUV node, the recently reported 5nm+.
 
lol for real? you actually believe that?

They hired the guy that designed AMD's Zen to come in and help. They've put millions of dollars down the bog, and AMD Are about to go 7nm on the cheap. And you don't think they are panicking?

I'd hate to see them with real problems :D

It is not panic. It is greed. They want to remain far on top. And they will just beat down competition with their wallet.

The thing that most people miss is that AMD is trying to beat Intel's 5 year old architecture, and still can't. Intel hasn't released new stuff in 5 years. It is just variations on old architecture. What will AMD do when really new stuff from Intel comes out? It is like Vega. An attempt to beat 2-3 years old Nvidia architecture. And Nvidia was just like khm RTX... And AMD still can't beat 2nd card in Nvida lineup. And they won't even try to beat 2080 Ti. Same thing will happen with CPUs in the next year or two.

Price/performance is another topic. Prices are gone haywire because there is no competition.

I am not a fan boy. I owned bot Intel, and AMD hardware. I owned Voodoo card because it was better than Riva TNT. I just don't see AMD as a threat to Intel.
 
Yeah, Zen is very good for server use, both price to performance and performance per watt wise. Gaming is more or less the only application where Intel still has the edge.
 
I am not a fan boy. I owned bot Intel, and AMD hardware. I owned Voodoo card because it was better than Riva TNT. I just don't see AMD as a threat to Intel.

It's easy to say that from your POV. But from Intel perspective, they are at Defcon 3 looking towards upping to Defcon 2.

You honestly dont think Intel is worried with this?

source https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-intel-core-cpu-market-share-price-report-september-2018/
Stats are based on one etailer, but it is still reflective of what is going on right now.
 

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With info from an industry insider 18 months or more ago... Trust me Intel are having kittens. This is seriously a big feggin deal.

Oh and as for AMD not being a threat to Intel? Lolz. They are the only threat to Intel. It would be deluded not to think so.
 
Yeah figures yesterday show AMD gained 5% marketshare in desktops and laptops YoY(To 17.1% in desktops and 13.1% in laptops, with the latter being a bigger market than datacenters/servers in terms of volume for Intel at the moment). Laptops are where Intel will focus their 10nm efforts first though while it's where Zen2 will go last so AMD's consumer focus is still likely to be desktop where they could easily capture 25% of the market if they just maintain current momentum by the time Intel have a response.
 
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