SLI_Fallen
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I have a bit of an odd problem.
This is a Mach-1, but.......
I've NEVER had an issue with initial power on temps getting anywhere near 40c. Even with an old Athalon FX-60 I had at 750mhz over (and remember, these were 130nm that I was personally running at 1.95v.) It would go up maybe 6-8 C before it would start dropping. (usually would start around 25c or so on inital power on from being off overnight)
So I get a new MB w/a QX6700 Quad and its running around 1.36v (at least thats what CPUZ says) my BIOS is set to 1.4v) and at first all was well for a couple days after installation.
Then it starts to hit 40c on initial power on and then gives the err4 (CPU Temp) error since the default cutoff is 40c and powers off. If I power it on again, even only 30 seconds later down it comes and all is fine.
Now, I USED to have the ATX power conditioner installed that keeps vcore off the CPU until the boot temp is reached (-33) but it actually failed a couple years ago and burned up the plug because of all the voltage going thru the motherboard (they were never designed to handle the loads of dual video cards etc). Either that or the pin itself was not a good connection and it was arcing. Whatever the reason, it was ruined and I just had to throw it away and connect the prommie to the reset line.
As I said, it took a bit longer to come to temp and it would rise some before beginning to drop (totally normal) but now all the sudden I get this error and its LESS voltage on this 65nm CPU!
Well the ATX power conditioners are of course gone along with the mach 1's themselves, and I can only assume its the microcode on the mach-2's that control the voltages and booting of the box in relation to the temps??
I've had to replace one of the relays in the past and this time I took them both out and cleaned the contacts so I dont THINK thats the problem but I'm trying to locate sources for the two of them right now to replace anyways just to eliminate that as a possibility.
I'm certainly open to suggestions here. (other than "get a mach-2") thanks.
EDIT: Reading that some motherboards were unable to hold the reset line long enough and the system would boot right away. This is *NOT* happening to me. The motherboard is holding reset and not booting, but the head temp is going to (positive) 40 at first. Indeed if I power back on even after 30 seconds, the temps come back down and when it hits -33 it releases reset, and boots correctly.
EDIT#2: Hmmm. Maybe it's just too much for this Mach1 to handle? Looking here: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/tools.jsp#cpuoc) I'm apparently pulling anywhere between 200-230W at the CPU. If that is to be believed, the CPU is just heating up too fast for the prommie to compensate in time (barely) because on the second attempt, it starts cooling perfectly and in fact runs COOLER (-35 at the display) than my FX-60 did and is completely and totally stable prime95, superPI, you name it.
I'm just not sure what REALLY is going on here.
This is a Mach-1, but.......
I've NEVER had an issue with initial power on temps getting anywhere near 40c. Even with an old Athalon FX-60 I had at 750mhz over (and remember, these were 130nm that I was personally running at 1.95v.) It would go up maybe 6-8 C before it would start dropping. (usually would start around 25c or so on inital power on from being off overnight)
So I get a new MB w/a QX6700 Quad and its running around 1.36v (at least thats what CPUZ says) my BIOS is set to 1.4v) and at first all was well for a couple days after installation.
Then it starts to hit 40c on initial power on and then gives the err4 (CPU Temp) error since the default cutoff is 40c and powers off. If I power it on again, even only 30 seconds later down it comes and all is fine.
Now, I USED to have the ATX power conditioner installed that keeps vcore off the CPU until the boot temp is reached (-33) but it actually failed a couple years ago and burned up the plug because of all the voltage going thru the motherboard (they were never designed to handle the loads of dual video cards etc). Either that or the pin itself was not a good connection and it was arcing. Whatever the reason, it was ruined and I just had to throw it away and connect the prommie to the reset line.
As I said, it took a bit longer to come to temp and it would rise some before beginning to drop (totally normal) but now all the sudden I get this error and its LESS voltage on this 65nm CPU!
Well the ATX power conditioners are of course gone along with the mach 1's themselves, and I can only assume its the microcode on the mach-2's that control the voltages and booting of the box in relation to the temps??
I've had to replace one of the relays in the past and this time I took them both out and cleaned the contacts so I dont THINK thats the problem but I'm trying to locate sources for the two of them right now to replace anyways just to eliminate that as a possibility.
I'm certainly open to suggestions here. (other than "get a mach-2") thanks.
EDIT: Reading that some motherboards were unable to hold the reset line long enough and the system would boot right away. This is *NOT* happening to me. The motherboard is holding reset and not booting, but the head temp is going to (positive) 40 at first. Indeed if I power back on even after 30 seconds, the temps come back down and when it hits -33 it releases reset, and boots correctly.
EDIT#2: Hmmm. Maybe it's just too much for this Mach1 to handle? Looking here: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/tools.jsp#cpuoc) I'm apparently pulling anywhere between 200-230W at the CPU. If that is to be believed, the CPU is just heating up too fast for the prommie to compensate in time (barely) because on the second attempt, it starts cooling perfectly and in fact runs COOLER (-35 at the display) than my FX-60 did and is completely and totally stable prime95, superPI, you name it.
I'm just not sure what REALLY is going on here.
Alas. I tossed it.
