hi cpu prob a64 s939

[a name it will take]

hey i just resintly bought a s939 venice 512kb cash 3800+. i wanted a 3700+ or the 4000+ with the 1mb cash but oh well any way i keep reading that ppl ar getting 3500+.s with the venice core up to 3gh

now i can get ther but i get grafik ishews an its the cpu doin it cus i just drop the multy in windows an its fine so wth is goin on

i can only hit like 2.8gh with out some grafic ishews

cpu cooled my home made water unit top temp is 38c evin under load

cpu v core rite now is 1.7 was 1.6 so far if had it up to 1.945 was stable but dident help

an last but not least should i take the cap off the cpu does it help much in heat trans fer

dont worry i know how to do it doen it to many p4.s just wana know if its a waste of my time or if it might help

 

[Ares210]

I have a s939 venice 3500+ and I could only get it to about 2.8 but I run it stable at 2.62 on air. I haven't heard of people getting them to 3ghz, if so they got a very lucky chip.

 

[llwyd]

For a start, dont ever take the voltage above 1.6v. Secondly when you say you droped the multi in windows do you mean that you are not using your BIOS to do the overclocking?

Also are you using a graphics card or onboard graphics? If so is it AGP or PCI-E?

I wouldnt be surprised if running it at 1.945v has damaged it.

 

[a name it will take]

For a start, dont ever take the voltage above 1.6v. Secondly when you say you droped the multi in windows do you mean that you are not using your BIOS to do the overclocking?

Also are you using a graphics card or onboard graphics? If so is it AGP or PCI-E?

I wouldnt be surprised if running it at 1.945v has damaged it.

it dident still runs just as

ty as when i first bought it an im shure its fine my old xp3000 stock was 1.6v an it took 2.2 no prob

an its not my video if tryed playin with that its a agp 7800gs

an i do use the bios to oc but i can drop the cpu multy with cpu bid

 

[Ares210]

For a start, dont ever take the voltage above 1.6v.

I wouldnt be surprised if running it at 1.945v has damaged it.

I thought 1.7 was pretty high even for water

And 1.945 im surprised it didnt like burst into flames.

 

[Ares210]

it dident still runs just as

ty as when i first bought it an im shure its fine my old xp3000 stock was 1.6v an it took 2.2 no prob

an its not my video if tryed playin with that its a agp 7800gs

an i do use the bios to oc but i can drop the cpu multy with cpu bid

The chips back then needed a lot more volts then the chips of today

 

[a name it will take]

hey

i keep getting told 1.7 is max but it it truly is then theas cpu.s take it like a bit** lol

1.9v dident help my oc but dient hurt any thing eather i still get same wall

tryed ram settings thats not my wall eather like i can hit 3 gh in windows with this 3800+ an windows is fine but games ar missin pices the ht was at about 980mh an all i had to do was drop the cpu mutiplyer so the cpu was at 2.7 an graficks wer fine so i know for shure its the cpu but i duno y

maby the cpu.s max is 2.8 but that is allso sad cus my old xp 3000+ maxed at 2768mh stable at 2.1v

an yeah think taken off the cap might help?

 

[llwyd]

Don't use any form of overclocking software, do it 100% though BIOS. I asked if about your GPU as if you have not locked your PCI-E bus it could be causing the issues you have mentioned.

As Ares said, todays CPUs need alot less power, do not put it above 1.6v.

And can you please take some more time over your typing. It is taking me about 5 minutes to translate each post.

 

[a name it will take]

The chips back then needed a lot more volts then the chips of today

its only off by .2 lol

xp 3000 stock v core 1.65

a64 3800 vcore 1.45v its not a big difernce

 

[a name it will take]

ok dont worry about any thing els i sead ill deal with it

do u think takeing off the cap will help

it has on some of the p4.s if oc.ed allso with voltiges up to 2.1 on pore lil 1.4volt air cool 1.8gh an a mobal 1.7gh i was bored lol

if only ever cooked 1 cpu was a celiron 1gig stock v core 1.7v trying to break 1.6gh it died at 3.2v but was running at 2.8v vary hot but was stable at 1.4gh

 

[llwyd]

0.2 is a huge difference in voltages. Youre talking about transistors that switch on voltages too low to comprehend. The xp3000 is a different architecture to the A64 and requires a totally different level of voltage.

 

[PP Mguire]

xp 3000 stock v core 1.65

a64 3800 vcore 1.45v its not a big difernce

Yes there is a VERY big difference. You gotta realize that the difference in technology in each chip is very different. SocketA < S939. Im suprised you havent fried every one of those chips that your taking over 1.7v. Stock A64 3000+ 1.28, stock AthlonXP 3000+ 1.65. Big difference in cpu tech and voltage.

I suggest since you have a decent video card and decent setup you just put it at a nice and stable clock and leave it there. Removing the IHS probably wont help you at all in this case cause your trying to push the cpu way to hard.

 

[a name it will take]

hey agean

ok thanks i guess i do have a nice set an allso know what im doing just never worked with a a64 before but thats what i do push em till they ither crash or die just cus i find it fun i guess an i dont see y ppl cant just anser my qustions

an not tell me that my volts ar to high

an im doen with forums i get haseled more then i get advice plus id like to see some one beat my old xp3000 on air

most ppl think im lien about that cpu but i have cpu.z pics

not to menchion the 2 p4.2.8gh 533mh bus i built both comps run 3.6gh stock volts on stock air heat sink air [stock intel cooler was modded to do 6000rpm] an use speed fan to slow it down

my last word basikly it the i mod my systems so much ther you can not find any chips on the board over 45c if i find 1 i heat sink it no matter what it is ann all my comps so far will take max volts in bios with oc.ing an worst i get is a crash or curuped windows from the oc speeds out of about 5 years of oc.ing fring 1 cpu is not bad lol an i lost a fx5200 not shure how static i think

 

[Ham]

Maybe if you bothered putting in question marks we could answer your questions. Dude, really. Sort out your typing.

No, its not really worth removing the IHS.

They keep telling you your voltage is too high because it is. Enless you are on a sub-zero cooler or you don't want your chip to last more than about 2 weeks.

What motherboard, powersuply and ram are you using?

 

[a name it will take]

hey

k thanks i doo need to put qustion marks i have add.h or ishews lol but yeah

k as for my cooler it is -31c capable but i havent used that low since i hit 2.850gh on my xp3000 at -15c wasint stable but booted

i dont hit over 35c under load evin with 2.808gh 1.7v playing black an white 2

k i saw a pic of the venice core im not messin with a core that small its tiny lol. ima leave the cap on this 1

system is

CPU: s939 venice 3800+ 512kb

MOBO: epox 9nda3i nforce 3 agp

RAM: crucial ddr500 bga chips

VIDEO: bfg 7800gs 256mb agp

PCI: intel 10/100 pci lan card

AUDIO: audigy 4

PSU.S running 2x psu.s #1 enermax true 460wat powers motherboard an video card #2 dell 250wat powers 3 hd.s a dvd burner an 8 fans evin thow the cpu is water cooled

an i dont use anything on board apart from the usb

an all hd.s ar ide

 

[PP Mguire]

Your best bet would to use onboard LAN at least. It should be gigabit, which in turn would be better than the 10/100. Do you run your cpu and ram 1:1? How high have you gotten your RAM before? Do you have those pics of the XP3000+? Id like to see them. They are known for not having any headroom at all, and i as lucky to get 2.41ghz outa my old 2600+.

 

[a name it will take]

hey

k hope u guys can see my pic that was max stable but i ran it at 2606mh for over a year at 2.1v was a real pain to keep cool as u can imagin

speeds for my ram

OLD STOCK DDR400 RAM: barly 200mh at 2.5/3/3/6

NEW DDR500 RAM: maxes around 230mh ----------

2.6v for ram

OLD RAM: about 221mh at 3/3/3/8

NEW RAM: maxes at 261mh --------

rite now ram is running 198mh or sumthin but i got the cas tuned nicely

i like old pci lan alot of on board lan card draw power from the cpu a lil

sorry its not cpu.z but u can tell its a barton i still have that cpu its running my number 2 system

 

[PP Mguire]

CBID is cool for XPs. Funny thing though, thats not for a Barton, thats for a Thorton core.

 

[a name it will take]

hey

so whats the difernce far as i knew thorton an barton wer pritty much the same

an most ppl with tell u that the only 512kb cash cpu for 462 is a barton back when i bought it i dident evin know ther was a thorton allso dident know it would still kick the

outa this a64

lol with my xp at 2.6gh an the ram at 249mh its ran over this amd 3800+ like a train lol but now that i have it semi tweaked it can bearly beat it

is it to much to ask to try an get black an white 2 runnen smooth with a city of 4000 ppl lmao it chops like mad but the wars ar sick

with my old barton at 2.6 MAX PPL was around 1200 before it start to chop

now im up around 1600-2000ppl with the new board an cpu before it lagges

note this is the only game im fighten with for cpu power

 

[PP Mguire]

Dude, my friend plays B&W2 max ppl on a stock 3400+ S754 no prob. You must have something goin on wrong there. And Barton max was 256k L2 cache. I had a 3200+ sitting around for while with 256K L2.