Help with my first build
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barnsley
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I'm presuming you're not a one game person who might occasionally do recording stuff/editing, like the majority of people who want to build a decent gaming pc what so CPU wise you'll be fine with the i5. If your budget takes a hit for whatever reason you can go down the AMD route however at this point in time you'll still do very well with Intel. Graphics wise I'd look at the 280x, especially the Sapphire Toxic edition if you'd be willing to OC it (it can go as fast as a 780) and don't mind the power draw. The 290x with custom cooler (if they ever come out) would be a good option however I'd be worried about power draw and the extra price the cooler would add on it (it'd need to be powerful to cool the 290x, thus driving the price up).
Consider this, you may be new to the site but does his list look like someones (quite well researched) idea for a gaming rig? I'm sorry but if you're going to be rude, atleast be rude when you know it won't make you look like someone who can't put 1+1 together. If they don't display a vague parts list/budget for their build that is when you ask them what they would use their rig for.
Consider this, you may be new to the site but does his list look like someones (quite well researched) idea for a gaming rig? I'm sorry but if you're going to be rude, atleast be rude when you know it won't make you look like someone who can't put 1+1 together. If they don't display a vague parts list/budget for their build that is when you ask them what they would use their rig for.
Type-8
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Dev Tomato, thank you for your input but your first post definitely came across as patronizing. and from the cost of the components listed i would have thought it would be obvious that i don't intend to just use it to play Minecraft... or Pang.
to everyone else, thankyou, and from your input i think i've settled on everything except the GPU. to that end, what do you guys think? my budget for it is around the price of the third party 280x's, perhaps a little more if there is a good bargain on one (like a 3rd party 290x).
Barnsley is the sapphire Toxic any better than the ASUS that i first looked at? and does anyone know how either of them compare to a Sapphire 7970 OC edition?
to everyone else, thankyou, and from your input i think i've settled on everything except the GPU. to that end, what do you guys think? my budget for it is around the price of the third party 280x's, perhaps a little more if there is a good bargain on one (like a 3rd party 290x).
Barnsley is the sapphire Toxic any better than the ASUS that i first looked at? and does anyone know how either of them compare to a Sapphire 7970 OC edition?
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Type-8
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i believe it would sneak in perfectly at exactly just slightly over budget. so yes i probably could
right now i'm hearing that they can all be flashed with no issues. my problem is that i wont be buying/building for a month or two (the latter most likely) and i have a feeling that AMD will have remedied this little "loophole" by then.
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Type-8
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it seems you are right then. regardless like i said if i was working at AMD i would be doing everything i could to ensure that the next shipment of cards cant simply be flashed to avoid paying the price difference.
Kaapstad
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I don't think it will be long before AMD close the door on this.
At the moment you have even got retailers like OCUK flashing the cards themselves and selling them on.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-094-HS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1752
dev_tomato
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You're welcome. But I will say - requirements being obvious or not - I wanted to see the software requirements written up at the very top of your rig components in red and bold because I consider them that much important (this should be a guideline for posting on New Build Advice). Rationale being - as I mentioned before:
In addition, gaming has different interpretations as follows:
Clear example of two different types of "Games" with completely different workload as far as GPU and CPU are concerned nevertheless all come under the umbrella of gaming.
Part of any advice given by any professional is to collect all facts which implies 0 assumptions. I place heavy emphasis on software and am pretty religious about it and believe me many experts in the industry agree on the fact that software has always driven hardware.
I believe every post ever made on this forum and every post that will ever be made is motivated due to budget constraints/saving some money. As I said:
Because if you have no budget constraints, then you wouldn't be posting here to begin with. And without looking at your software requirements, not SuB, not Tom and not even the developers nor Intel can tell you in a definitive manner what you should/should not buy to complement it from hardware point of view.
It doesn't get any clearer than that. But if you were not looking for a definite answer - giving it a 2nd priority and chit chat was a higher priority than solving your problem - then I do apologize to ruin the party. Please do continue if it entertains you as regardless this is my last post on overclocking 3d forum.
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Kaapstad
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You still have not got the point have you.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
Well since this thread seems to be off topic. I'll bring it back
OP: Wait on the gpu. Wait to see which aftermarket coolers come out and reviews. Then make the choice on 280x or 290(x).
Other than that would else do you need help with? Hard to know since little of this thread is actually helpful to you
OP: Wait on the gpu. Wait to see which aftermarket coolers come out and reviews. Then make the choice on 280x or 290(x).
Other than that would else do you need help with? Hard to know since little of this thread is actually helpful to you
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SuB
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Overclock3D*
You haven't got the point, what you're re-iterated is all well and good but your FIRST line of text is what has caused the problem.
It just has the wrong attitude to a first post new guy who's looking for advice, *that* is why everyone has barked at you. You had 5 posts here, that doesn't give you the right to come in with what comes across as sarcasm and un-constructive posts.
barnsley
born in a.....
Ok, let me riddle you this (not that you'll read this, you're too busy trying to be smart). The OP has enough money to get an i5 and a nice 'card. Chances are they saved up for that so that they could get the pc they want. I don't know about you, but if I saved ~£800 on a gaming pc I'd not want to spend £400 of it on a pc just because I only play minecraft. Heck, if they play just minecraft at the moment what not to say they go into another game? Pleases don't tell me you expect people to play the same game over and over again for the time they have a computer.
You won't be welcome in other places if you have that tone about you either.
Type-8
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well thank you kindly for leaving then, im sure it will help this thread stay on topic.
Well since this thread seems to be off topic. I'll bring it back
OP: Wait on the gpu. Wait to see which aftermarket coolers come out and reviews. Then make the choice on 280x or 290(x).
Other than that would else do you need help with? Hard to know since little of this thread is actually helpful to you
its only the gpu really that im undecided on so i think thats exactly what i'm going to do. plus, if i wait then i might get be able to pick up some of my other components in after Christmas sales.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
This is one of the times waiting pays off. Prices may even come down by the time you go to purchase it. I would wait if it was me but then again i have more patience than a lot of other people seem to have these days.
