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AverageNinja

AverageNinja

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Some of you might know that I've started to make plans for an upcoming build. It's delayed a lot (got fired from my job), but I have one more question.

I was thinking. Should I go for a 3570k or a 2500k? I will get a NZXT Havik 140, and will overclock. Should I still go for the 3570k (with heat problems), though they have higher efficienty per core than the 2500k or stick with the 2500k and overclock the crap out of it?
And does anyone have experience with a z77 board and SB (MSI Z77A-GD65)?
I know that I'll lose PCI-E 3.0, which might be a pity with possible 3-way Crossfire in the far future.

To the mods, this isn't a dream build. This build WILL be made ASAP.

EDIT: I'm really looking for a job to build it asap. But by the time I have the money, the next gen CPUs might even be released by the (haswell, 14nm, socket LGA 1150 (H3))
 
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The 3570k doesnt really have heat problems...

It only gets hotter than the 2500k when you push past around 4.7/4.8ghz. Any lower than that and it's cooler. IMO, you dont even need it faster than 4.5/4.6ghz.

Therefore, I'd always say now go for the 3570k. Basically the same, roughly 2% faster, but you'd benefit from the better memory controller. As for PCIE 3.0, doesnt really make a difference, and I'm guessing by the time you'd be ready for 3 way crossfire, you'd probably be upgrading the cpu and board again anyway.
 
i´ve only heard good things about the msi z77a-gd65.
the people on the forum who own one, seem to like it alot
 
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jamesriley94 said:
The 3570k doesnt really have heat problems...

It only gets hotter than the 2500k when you push past around 4.7/4.8ghz. Any lower than that and it's cooler. IMO, you dont even need it faster than 4.5/4.6ghz.

Therefore, I'd always say now go for the 3570k. Basically the same, roughly 2% faster, but you'd benefit from the better memory controller. As for PCIE 3.0, doesnt really make a difference, and I'm guessing by the time you'd be ready for 3 way crossfire, you'd probably be upgrading the cpu and board again anyway.
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Alright then! Thanks :)
You're probably right, by the time I have cash for the other 2 7950s, the intel Haswell CPUs or maybe even the Skylake CPUs are probably installed. And I would be like: OMG I WANT DDR4 MEMORY! WANT WANT WANT!!! :P
 
CPMFW said:
i´ve only heard good things about the msi z77a-gd65.
the people on the forum who own one, seem to like it alot
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Yeah, I really like the looks of that board. And it seems to be the only board that supports 3-way CrossFire-X / SLI in my price range. Also I think the UEFI bios of the gd65 is awesome!
 
I think the best thing to do which I tend to do is set a budget mines around £1300-2000 or create a pc fund amount in your bank and put money into it over time like £200 a month which equals £2000 or in one year time. So by the time I have saved the full amount of my budget new hardware comes out and I build the latest high pc and sell my old build. Just keep in mind try to plan your build and budget so you gain a performance increase that you will be happy with, no point spending £2000 to get a 5% performance increase. So keep saving until new hardware comes out and you could end up saving £3000 or more for a build.
 
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nemesiszero said:
I think the best thing to do which I tend to do is set a budget mines around £1300-2000 or create a pc fund amount in your bank and put money into it over time like £200 a month which equals £2000 or in one year time. So by the time I have saved the full amount of my budget new hardware comes out and I build the latest high pc and sell my old build. Just keep in mind try to plan your build and budget so you gain a performance increase that you will be happy with, no point spending £2000 to get a 5% performance increase. So keep saving until new hardware comes out and you could end up saving £3000 or more for a build.
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Yeah, I do have a budget. And you're probably right :)
I'm just gonna have to find a job then :D
My budget would lay around £1000. That would mean a 7950 and a 3570k at this moment of time. But I think the 8000 series GPUs are coming soon. And by the time I have the money the Haswell CPUs might even be released or close to being released with DDR4 memory support :D
 
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With a Havik 140, you should be able to push the 2500k up to 4.8-5GHz stable - you're looking at around 4.5-4.6GHz with a 3570k. Both will perform well in process heavy environments, and there really wouldn't be any performance difference.
 
Josh Weston said:
With a Havik 140, you should be able to push the 2500k up to 4.8-5GHz stable - you're looking at around 4.5-4.6GHz with a 3570k. Both will perform well in process heavy environments, and there really wouldn't be any performance difference.
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I think the 2500k would look elite on my CPU-ID sig, but the 3570k is newer, and I have this thing that I always need to buy the newest if I buy something.
 
Bah, status etc. is for people who care too much about themselves. It's really not that important. A 3570k should be able to do a one off clock at 5GHz (note my sig) if you wish to try getting there and validating it. After that, I just clocked down to a humble 4.5GHz, which runs just dandy.
 
Josh Weston said:
Bah, status etc. is for people who care too much about themselves. It's really not that important. A 3570k should be able to do a one off clock at 5GHz (note my sig) if you wish to try getting there and validating it. After that, I just clocked down to a humble 4.5GHz, which runs just dandy.
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Ah, thanks for that suggestion mate :)
 
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