Haswell Spec sheet leak

You can't tell anything other than specs from that leaked sheet.
The one interesting thing though is the lower TDP, which tells us they will defiantly use less power and run cooler. If Intel doesn't use TIM between the die and the IHS again like with Ivy that is :D

We already know that the GPU is twice as powerful as the one in Ivy so that's another good thing, especially with Lucid MVP for that extra bump in performance alongside your GPU.

Until we see benches and overclocking performance though, we can't make any judgment on how good, or how bad Haswell is.
 
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SieB said:
You can't tell anything other than specs from that leaked sheet.
The one interesting thing though is the lower TDP, which tells us they will defiantly use less power and run cooler. If Intel doesn't use TIM between the die and the IHS again like with Ivy that is :D

We already know that the GPU is twice as powerful as the one in Ivy so that's another good thing, especially with Lucid MVP for that extra bump in performance alongside your GPU.

Until we see benches and overclocking performance though, we can't make any judgment on how good, or how bad Haswell is.
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Can't tell if gullible or optimistic
 
See IMHO i believe that these things aren't leaked, they are put out on purpose with incorrect specs so people like AMD can go right lets make better ones but then Intel actually come out with better ones :)
 
Ross_Kirkbright said:
See IMHO i believe that these things aren't leaked, they are put out on purpose with incorrect specs so people like AMD can go right lets make better ones but then Intel actually come out with better ones :)
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That makes no sense considering the FX performed worse then the phenom 1090t
 
Neither, what makes you seem to think based on that spec sheet that Haswell is a refresh?

Haswell is a completely new architecture with a lower TDP, also with a 2x more powerful IGP than Ivy and 4x more powerful one than Sandy.

I go off benchmarks and overclocking performance, you can't tell the performance of a CPU just from the specs. The GHZ doesn't tell you anything, you can have a i7 920 overclocked to 4.5ghz and a 2600k overclocked to 4.5ghz, doesn't mean they will have the same performance.

Performance comes down to the architecture and overclocking performance. Haswell having a lower TDP means they run on lower stock volts, lower stock volts means more overhead room for overclocking. So with a new architecture and a lower TDP, with more overclocking room, Haswell should have plenty of improvement over SB/IB.
 
Not sure if I'm reading correctly...
But that shows Haswell to have a higher TDP than Ivybridge?
At least on the standard models?
3770k is 77w, whilst the 4770k is 84w?
 
Can't really see how you get much info from that sheet tbh.

And is it just me that finds Haswell to be a really outdated name..
 
jamesriley94 said:
Not sure if I'm reading correctly...
But that shows Haswell to have a higher TDP than Ivybridge?
At least on the standard models?
3770k is 77w, whilst the 4770k is 84w?
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Ivy is listed as 95 TDP but only uses 77w I'm assuming this will be the same.. History and a simple calculation shows it will use about 66w.

^^ lulz 10 tdp z0mg mezziff 10ghz OC!!11

This just reinstates the fact the market has been controlled for the past 10 years with little advancements since.. I remember a 10 year stretch watching cpu's go from 300mhz to quad cores lulz nowadays lower TDP is exciting... just lul...
 
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grassman said:
I remember a 10 year stretch watching cpu's go from 300mhz to quad cores lulz nowadays lower TDP is exciting... just lul...
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Again, mhz/ghz means nothing, it's the CPU architecture that determines the performance. A lower TDP is always a good thing, it means less power usage, less heat and higher overclocking potential.
 
SieB said:
Again, mhz/ghz means nothing, it's the CPU architecture that determines the performance. A lower TDP is always a good thing, it means less power usage, less heat and higher overclocking potential.
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Tell me moar things nobody already knew?
 
Lol you can't be seriously judging Haswell based on the base clock speed..
 
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I"m so confident If I'm wrong I will donate parts of my rig to you guys and buy haswell hows that?
I'm just shocked that people can be so naive to think were going to be seeing significant gains here?
 
grassman said:
I"m so confident If I'm wrong I will donate parts of my rig to you guys and buy haswell hows that?
I'm just shocked that people can be so naive to think were going to be seeing significant gains here?
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I'm not saying Haswell isn't going to be great, I don't think we will see much improvement over IB, why do Intel need to bother wasting money?

What I want to know is how you came to your conclusion purely based of that 'spec' sheet.
 
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I'm not saying Haswell isn't going to be great, I don't think we will see much improvement over IB, why do Intel need to bother wasting money?

What I want to know is how you came to your conclusion purely based of that 'spec' sheet.
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Because it's helping confirm everyone's fears? Insignificant gains..
Intel need to waste money to make money otherwise the platform will continue to fizzle away if everyone's fears are confirmed in spring who here is actually going to be making a jump from 1155 to 1150? Nobody Intel is a tiny spectrum for the industry as a whole if people don't buy CPU's and Motherboards small business die because of it. That to me is unfair and this is happening to cut power usuage and lower CO2 Levels? lol give me a break

The greater good? More like a great joke
 
grassman said:
Because it's helping confirm everyone's fears? Insignificant gains..
Intel need to waste money to make money otherwise the platform will continue to fizzle away if everyone's fears are confirmed in spring who here is actually going to be making a jump from 1155 to 1150? Nobody Intel is a tiny spectrum for the industry as a whole if people don't buy CPU's and Motherboards small business die because of it. That to me is unfair and this is happening to cut power usuage and lower CO2 Levels? lol give me a break

The greater good? More like a great joke
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What do you mean "insignificant gains"?

You can't tell from the specs what gains Haswell does or doesn't have.
Stop looking at the clock speed and thinking because it hasn't been increase that the performance is the same.

The IGP is twice as powerful than the previous one in Ivy so that is one "significant gain" for starters. As for performance of the CPU, only time will tell when we see benchmarks and overclocking results.
 
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We'll when I'm wrong I'm donating my rig are you prepared to make the same statement? Are you that sure Intel will pull through?
 
grassman said:
We'll when I'm wrong I'm donating my rig.......
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Are you sure about this?! Because you are making this promise all by yourself! Nobody has betted nothing with you! If you are making this kind of affirmations.....if it's wrong, you have to make front to the consequences! :)
 
Yes because it's 99.9% foolproof

and hey if it does turn out to be something then I have a great excuse to make the next step to the next big jump.
 
I agree with SieB. At the moment all we are relying on is Intels word of mouth based hype. Ofcourse Intel are going to say there are very significant improvement over the previous generation. They want our money. I can see the new architecture having maybe a 10%-15% improvement over Ivy Bridge in processing power. But nothing that is overly dramatic as they seem to be more focussed on taking more of the mobile market share with this generation.

Although I can only really see the new iGPU being useful in tablets and HTPCs. yes it may be twice as powerful as Ivy Bridge, but that still isn't a scratch on what AMD have with their APUs.

AMD really need to pull them self together if they want to stay in the race. I don't even know what happened with AMD and why they suddenly hit a wall and dropped Thuban.

Give Thuban a die shrink and then refine its architecture is what I say. (Loved my Phenom II x 2 555 BE that could unlock to a 4.1Ghz quad)

Like has been said before, only benchmarks and time(tolive) will tell.
 
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