i hear ya there... once the 350/750/900 came out the likes of the 450/650/800 was just swept under the carpet into obscurity i had the 300r didnt like the vented windows .... so went to the phanteks evolv itx (the same week the atx version came out .....) and year later they bring out the nzxt manta ... by the time that happend i wanted something bigger with front IO ports being a wheelchair user anything on the top of case was out of the question