GTX 1070 3DMARK results leaked

Synthetic benchmarks aren't really an indicator of much. Just like how they said the 1080 is faster than a TX, yet when in an enclosed case, it was only 2% faster than a 980ti or about even with a TX clocked at 1500mhz. That was gaming applications, where the real results should be looked at.
 
Synthetic benchmarks aren't really an indicator of much. Just like how they said the 1080 is faster than a TX, yet when in an enclosed case, it was only 2% faster than a 980ti or about even with a TX clocked at 1500mhz. That was gaming applications, where the real results should be looked at.

You really earned that title mate.
 
You really earned that title mate.

It's called facts.. I didn't make the tests. I just take the results
And if you really think synthetic tests are the best indicator for telling how good a card is, then that shows how little you know tbh. We all know gaming tests are what matters. Unless you are like Kaap, who is a bench enthusiast.. But that's a small minority.
 
He is right regarding the tests. I would only consider testing valid if it is done in a closed case across several games.
 
It's called facts.. I didn't make the tests. I just take the results
And if you really think synthetic tests are the best indicator for telling how good a card is, then that shows how little you know tbh. We all know gaming tests are what matters. Unless you are like Kaap, who is a bench enthusiast.. But that's a small minority.

The thing is, i also read plenty of tests on games where the 1080 performed considerably better than 102% of a 980ti. Benchmarks may overexaggerate the performance of the card, but you are giving it way more flack than it deserves. Just like the 1080 might perform better in some benchmarks it will underperform in some other applications, cherrypicking its bad results doesn't make it a bad card overall.
 
So its the same info leaked by the same redditor that got the results wrong for the 1080 yes? dont believe a word this guy says until we see official benchmarks. theres nothing but made up numbers here. nothing to see.
 
A 980ti at 1500/8000Mhz reaches 21500 graphics score in Fire Strike, sometimes higher, which is just shy of that 1080 benchmark. It's not just games that show the 1080 being only ahead of an overclocked 980ti by a relatively small margin. Of course, you similarly overclock a 1080 and that gap widens again. But still, a 980ti at 1500/8000Mhz hits 136FPS in BF3 while a 1080 at stock hits 137FPS at 1440p. That is the same performance. Other games show anywhere from a 0-10% difference. The overclocked 980ti will hit around 85 FPS in GTA V while the 1080 will hit 91, a small but calculable difference. The Witcher 3 shows the 980ti hitting around 55-60 FPS while the 1080 hits around 70-75FPS, a bigger difference there. This is all using Techpowerup reviews of the Gigabyte Xtreme Gaming 980ti and 1080 reviews, which were published a few months apart. Obviously the 1080 will improve as new drivers are released, but that is what we have now. Also, DX12 games shows the 1080 clearly taking the lead over the 980ti by a comfortable margin. From Anandtech, at 4K in Hitman, the 1080 is well ahead of the 980ti. The same goes for Ashes of the Singularity.
 
A 980ti at 1500/8000Mhz reaches 21500 graphics score in Fire Strike, sometimes higher, which is just shy of that 1080 benchmark. It's not just games that show the 1080 being only ahead of an overclocked 980ti by a relatively small margin. Of course, you similarly overclock a 1080 and that gap widens again. But still, a 980ti at 1500/8000Mhz hits 136FPS in BF3 while a 1080 at stock hits 137FPS at 1440p. That is the same performance. Other games show anywhere from a 0-10% difference. The overclocked 980ti will hit around 85 FPS in GTA V while the 1080 will hit 91, a small but calculable difference. The Witcher 3 shows the 980ti hitting around 55-60 FPS while the 1080 hits around 70-75FPS, a bigger difference there. This is all using Techpowerup reviews of the Gigabyte Xtreme Gaming 980ti and 1080 reviews, which were published a few months apart. Obviously the 1080 will improve as new drivers are released, but that is what we have now. Also, DX12 games shows the 1080 clearly taking the lead over the 980ti by a comfortable margin. From Anandtech, at 4K in Hitman, the 1080 is well ahead of the 980ti. The same goes for Ashes of the Singularity.

So that's a card made for overclocking with serious cooling, well developed drivers and most likely a cherrypicked core vs a reference card made to run at stock + a little boost on pre release drivers. The price difference between the two cards seems to not be that large either, considering that 3rd party cards are supposed to be cheaper probably even null. Considering that the card has nearly half the powerconsumption i'd say it's not doing bad and will do a good bit better in the future.
 
So that's a card made for overclocking with serious cooling, well developed drivers and most likely a cherrypicked core vs a reference card made to run at stock + a little boost on pre release drivers. The price difference between the two cards seems to not be that large either, considering that 3rd party cards are supposed to be cheaper probably even null. Considering that the card has nearly half the powerconsumption i'd say it's not doing bad and will do a good bit better in the future.

It's not £620 good, though :p
 
If people would stop thinking GTX980Ti when comparing the GTX1080 that would be a great start, it's the replacement for the GTX980 not the Ti. In pretty much all gaming and bench tests so far the GTX1080 only really competes with the Ti when in SLI. The only edge a single GTX1080 has over the GTX980Ti is in the VR arena.

GTX1080 = GTX980 replacement, evolution of a product range.

Pricing I was a little shocked at first but when you look at it logically, fab, clocks, memory, wattage and materials makes it all worth it.

As for the GTX1070, it's the card I'm most excited to see from the new 10 Series, and just how it stacks up to the previous 70. It's going to be NVidias top seller that's for sure.
 
If people would stop thinking GTX980Ti when comparing the GTX1080 that would be a great start, it's the replacement for the GTX980 not the Ti. In pretty much all gaming and bench tests so far the GTX1080 only really competes with the Ti when in SLI. The only edge a single GTX1080 has over the GTX980Ti is in the VR arena.

GTX1080 = GTX980 replacement, evolution of a product range.

Pricing I was a little shocked at first but when you look at it logically, fab, clocks, memory, wattage and materials makes it all worth it.

As for the GTX1070, it's the card I'm most excited to see from the new 10 Series, and just how it stacks up to the previous 70. It's going to be NVidias top seller that's for sure.

Being so much more expensive than even the 980Ti, "GTX1080 = GTX980 replacement" is an invalid argument.
While the price increase might make perfect sense from a production point of view, you just can't factor out the 980Ti just because the 1080 doesn't have 'Ti' on the end of it. It just doesn't make sense as a consumer who might be about to lay down that much cash for a graphics card.
 
It's not £620 good, though :p

Well, if the 3rd party cards are going to be ~50 quid cheaper it would be somewhat acceptable i think.

If people would stop thinking GTX980Ti when comparing the GTX1080 that would be a great start, it's the replacement for the GTX980 not the Ti. In pretty much all gaming and bench tests so far the GTX1080 only really competes with the Ti when in SLI. The only edge a single GTX1080 has over the GTX980Ti is in the VR arena.

GTX1080 = GTX980 replacement, evolution of a product range.

Pricing I was a little shocked at first but when you look at it logically, fab, clocks, memory, wattage and materials makes it all worth it.

As for the GTX1070, it's the card I'm most excited to see from the new 10 Series, and just how it stacks up to the previous 70. It's going to be NVidias top seller that's for sure.

It falls into the same price category though, currently even costs you more unless you get some special cherrypicked card, that makes it a valid comparison despite them being in different performance categories. With each generation you should get more performance for your money, if the 1080 really could only keep up with a 980ti at a lower power consumption for the same kind of cash i'd not consider it much of an advancement either.
 
If people would stop thinking GTX980Ti when comparing the GTX1080 that would be a great start, it's the replacement for the GTX980 not the Ti. In pretty much all gaming and bench tests so far the GTX1080 only really competes with the Ti when in SLI. The only edge a single GTX1080 has over the GTX980Ti is in the VR arena.

GTX1080 = GTX980 replacement, evolution of a product range.

Pricing I was a little shocked at first but when you look at it logically, fab, clocks, memory, wattage and materials makes it all worth it.

As for the GTX1070, it's the card I'm most excited to see from the new 10 Series, and just how it stacks up to the previous 70. It's going to be NVidias top seller that's for sure.

IMO this is correct.

GTX1080 is a replacement for a GTX980 but it falls into the GTX980Ti price point only same goes for the GTX1070 it's a replacement for the GTX970 that will probably fall into the GTX980 pricing.

I don't understand why this is so hard for people to understand.
 
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IMO this is correct.

GTX1080 is a replacement for a GTX980 but it falls into the GTX980Ti price point only same goes for the GTX1070 it's a replacement for the GTX970 that will probably fall into the GTX980 pricing.

I don't understand why this is so hard for people to understand.
Inflation, cost of manufacture, silicon fabrication prices, so much to consider.. Just noticed that the majority of GTX1080 on OCUK are now £635 and Asus FE is £649..

As with previous cards though this is more than likely just the "launch" price and they will fall slightly over the coming months.

EDIT: Lets put this into perspective. Jen-Hsun when announcing the 1080 was stood by this projection (remember? did you watch it)

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So go back to the GTX780 that was a whopping £550 at launch while the GTX980 had a launch price of £450 (now £390) I think this where people are getting all up in arms about the GTX1080 costing.
But back to the launch image above, 2x GTX980s will today cost you £780ish.... so is the asking price for the GTX1080 at launch that bad?
 
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The problem for the FE 1080 is not the performance or price.

The problem is it is very bad bang for buck.

Worse still the 1080 does not have any real stand out extras for the money. What I mean by that is you could justify a TitanX if you wanted 12gb of memory for example.

The FE 1080 is not even much use as a reference card for watercooling as it is limited by it's power circuitry.

The good news is the AIB cards will push prices down and improve performance.
 
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