WYP
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Specifications for Nvidia's GTX 1060 have leaked online, delivering performance that is above the GTX 970.
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GTX 1060 Specs leak online
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shambles1980
New member
probably does not need to come in below £300 to keep the fanboys on side.
to some £80-£100 extra to stay on the same team is nothing they worry about.
its like all those people who buy apple phones. makes no sense to me.. but some how its worth it for them.
to some £80-£100 extra to stay on the same team is nothing they worry about.
its like all those people who buy apple phones. makes no sense to me.. but some how its worth it for them.
dwatterworth
New member
Definitely some competition for the 480, I hope the partner custom/semi custom designs are solid for both parties. I wonder how far the 480 will OC in the non-ref. designs to compete vs the high clocks that even the FE from Nvidia seems to hit.
CRITICALThinker
New member
If it is competitive with the RX 480 8GB in price, ie $300 CAD or less it will be my next card, otherwise I will have to leave my shield tablet + controller behind with their proprietary systems.
The_Governour
New member
I am sure this card is on Par OR better slightly than the 970 BUT I would say when it arrives then it would be around 300+ euros.
AMD`s 480 would be cheaper but like some one pointed out that people would still shell out more money for the Nvidia version like 300e ++. For sure.
AMD`s 480 would be cheaper but like some one pointed out that people would still shell out more money for the Nvidia version like 300e ++. For sure.
AlienALX
Well-known member
From my source in Taiwan.
The 1060 will probably cost around £300 for the 6gb card. It will probably perform around the same as a GTX 980, not a 970.
I'll also post this from a discussion I had with him earlier. It's good info and he's not usually wrong
1) There is no volume, because TSMC has no 16FF volume. Of Nvidia's allocation from TSMC they'll push weight towards GP104 because that's a better premium. Simply having the 1060 on the market - even out of stock - will deter people from going straight to the 480.
The fact NV have just pulled in the launch ~8 weeks is a huge amount and TSMC has a 3+ month waiting list. AIBs must be spitting fire that they've got to prepare their marketing, boxes, campaigns, sales channels within TWO WEEKS. This is probably why I'm hearing the real to market date is the last week of July for AIBs, not 14th.
So basically what he is predicting is a paper launch just to try and keep 480 sales at bay. It could be months before you actually see real cards in the flesh, although they could be with reviewers long before Nvidia has the volume to actually ship them due to complications with Pascal high end. Obviously Nvidia are far more concerned about producing the high cost parts..
If you look at the old 960 cooler (that was also used on the 760, 670 and various other GPUs) you will see that the 1060 cooler looks a lot better than this.
You will also notice they have used a better quality fan assembly and there is the aluminium accent on the fan also. In other words what I am trying to say is that Nvidia are trying to make it look like a premium part. They won't do that to give you a better card they will do it so they can extract a higher price for it.
Don't expect the 1060 to compete with the 480. It will be up to 20% faster no doubt but it will cost around £300 minimum. Nvidia are not in the market to sell cheap cards. This will be no exception. If you look at the price of a 4gb GTX 960 with the worst looking cooler ever you will see that even that was high 200s. And it was barely faster than the part it replaced (the 760).
TL;DR. Shortened version. Don't expect : 1. The 1060 to be available any time soon or 2: it to be cheap
The_Governour
New member
From my source in Taiwan.
The 1060 will probably cost around £300 for the 6gb card. It will probably perform around the same as a GTX 980, not a 970.
I'll also post this from a discussion I had with him earlier. It's good info and he's not usually wrong
1) There is no volume, because TSMC has no 16FF volume. Of Nvidia's allocation from TSMC they'll push weight towards GP104 because that's a better premium. Simply having the 1060 on the market - even out of stock - will deter people from going straight to the 480.
The fact NV have just pulled in the launch ~8 weeks is a huge amount and TSMC has a 3+ month waiting list. AIBs must be spitting fire that they've got to prepare their marketing, boxes, campaigns, sales channels within TWO WEEKS. This is probably why I'm hearing the real to market date is the last week of July for AIBs, not 14th.
So basically what he is predicting is a paper launch just to try and keep 480 sales at bay. It could be months before you actually see real cards in the flesh, although they could be with reviewers long before Nvidia has the volume to actually ship them due to complications with Pascal high end. Obviously Nvidia are far more concerned about producing the high cost parts..
If you look at the old 960 cooler (that was also used on the 760, 670 and various other GPUs) you will see that the 1060 cooler looks a lot better than this.
You will also notice they have used a better quality fan assembly and there is the aluminium accent on the fan also. In other words what I am trying to say is that Nvidia are trying to make it look like a premium part. They won't do that to give you a better card they will do it so they can extract a higher price for it.
Don't expect the 1060 to compete with the 480. It will be up to 20% faster no doubt but it will cost around £300 minimum. Nvidia are not in the market to sell cheap cards. This will be no exception. If you look at the price of a 4gb GTX 960 with the worst looking cooler ever you will see that even that was high 200s. And it was barely faster than the part it replaced (the 760).
TL;DR. Shortened version. Don't expect : 1. The 1060 to be available any time soon or 2: it to be cheap
Well here is where fan boy will cut in and still pay the premium and wait out the 1060. That comes from me that only has Nvidia cards right now - all though I wish that AMD can push the GPU battle this time around but for now it looks kind of bleak for them...
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I think the word fanboy is being overused here—and misused, too. If the 1060 is as fast as a 980 but £300, that's a different product and isn't an apples to apples comparison. Therefore, any 'fanboys' who buy that card are potentially not interested in a weaker, and more importantly, cheaper RX480. If the 1060 is going to be £220 for 970 performance yet gamers still wait for the 1060 despite having a very capable alternative readily available, that's closer to being a fanboy, or just a fan. But the RX480 appears to be in a slightly different class, which changes the situation.
I think I prefer it when we have a huge variety of performance and pricing levels. Instead of nVidia releasing a card at 100% performance for £350 and AMD then releasing a card at 100% performance for £350, I'd rather AMD released a card with performance at 95% for £300, or a card for £400 at 105%. This allows users to pick a GPU that suits them precisely rather than picking a card based on manufacturer.
I can apply this to myself as well, but instead of the Fury being a 980 beater at a higher price, I should try and see it as a card with specific abilities at a specific price. If those abilities and prices fit with me, I get one. If they don't, I get a different card. This removes arbitrary brand loyalty and encourages fair trade. NVidia do have specific products that link together, such as Shield, G-Sync, Shadow Play, etc., that require a nVidia GPU, but beyond that it's just gaming. Not that folks on this forum have an issue with this, but there is a lot of arbitrary brand loyalty; and it usually precedes fallacies and ignorance.
Ultimately, nVidia comparing the 1060 to an RX480 when it's potentially £80 more expensive may not be fair.
I think I prefer it when we have a huge variety of performance and pricing levels. Instead of nVidia releasing a card at 100% performance for £350 and AMD then releasing a card at 100% performance for £350, I'd rather AMD released a card with performance at 95% for £300, or a card for £400 at 105%. This allows users to pick a GPU that suits them precisely rather than picking a card based on manufacturer.
I can apply this to myself as well, but instead of the Fury being a 980 beater at a higher price, I should try and see it as a card with specific abilities at a specific price. If those abilities and prices fit with me, I get one. If they don't, I get a different card. This removes arbitrary brand loyalty and encourages fair trade. NVidia do have specific products that link together, such as Shield, G-Sync, Shadow Play, etc., that require a nVidia GPU, but beyond that it's just gaming. Not that folks on this forum have an issue with this, but there is a lot of arbitrary brand loyalty; and it usually precedes fallacies and ignorance.
Ultimately, nVidia comparing the 1060 to an RX480 when it's potentially £80 more expensive may not be fair.
ImprovizoR
Well-known member
The 480 is a $200-$250 card. If 1060 wants to compete it has to be in that price range. Otherwise it is in a different class and it is competing against the not-yet-officially-announced 490. And I'm willing to take bets now that 490 will perform better than the 1060 at that price point but it will run hotter and demand more power. This is all kind of super obvious though.
The_Governour
New member
The problem is that AMD is comparing its NEW gen cards with the last gen cards of Nvidia. Here there is NO 480 that is in the 200-250 euro price range. They are 300 euros.....
http://www.pccomponentes.com/tarjetas_graficas/rx_series/
For that price then you just pick up a 970........ that are all selling for cheap.
http://www.pccomponentes.com/tarjetas_graficas/rx_series/
For that price then you just pick up a 970........ that are all selling for cheap.
ImprovizoR
Well-known member
What else could they compare it with? And EU prices are always higher because of VAT which is up to 19% in some European countries.
Right. And get 3.5Gb of vram and abysmal Dx12 performance.
shambles1980
New member
that nvidia graph is some funny stuff lol.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
The comparing thing is really starting to annoy me. Why does everyone think it's bad? There's literally nothing else for them to compare to at the moment. What did you expect? You want to compare it to a 1070? What the heck is the point of that? You know what's going to win, that's not a comparison, that's a biased look at it.
Till the 14th...... Ive got my 1060.
Greenback
Active member
you didn't have to go half way across country this time, you must of been a good boy
