WYP
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Mining demand has waned and GPUs are reportedly piling up at retail.
Read more about expected drops in GPU pricing next month.
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GPU pricing is expected to drop in July
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AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I wonder how many 'should I wait for next-gen or should I buy a 1080Ti for €700' threads there will be?
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
An endless amount. Should probably sell my 1080 now..
AlienALX
Well-known member
lol who was it who said I was wrong again? oh yeah, the dude I have on ignore.
Man from Taiwan is never wrong, ever.
I like how this all went. It lasted just long enough for Nvidia to make a buttload of cards, then died leaving them holding the baby just as I said it would.
AGF - I can answer that right now (the thread title). Buy a 10 series. Main reason is these are out of Nvidia's hands now and old stock. Thus, you *will* get a better deal on these than any new card Nvidia jack the price up on.
I bought my GTX 470 when stocks were piled up for £174. I paid £25 for a Zalman cooler. Then the 570 came out at around £300, I overclocked and pretty much had the same card.
Unless you want bleeding edge performance? *always* avoid the new cards and wait for deals on the older ones.
Man from Taiwan is never wrong, ever.
I like how this all went. It lasted just long enough for Nvidia to make a buttload of cards, then died leaving them holding the baby just as I said it would.
AGF - I can answer that right now (the thread title). Buy a 10 series. Main reason is these are out of Nvidia's hands now and old stock. Thus, you *will* get a better deal on these than any new card Nvidia jack the price up on.
I bought my GTX 470 when stocks were piled up for £174. I paid £25 for a Zalman cooler. Then the 570 came out at around £300, I overclocked and pretty much had the same card.
Unless you want bleeding edge performance? *always* avoid the new cards and wait for deals on the older ones.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
If you are referring to me being on your ignore list you sure do post regarding me a lot. Kinda useless.
As for your man he wasn't really right. Everybody is reporting this because of the expected next gen cards. It doesn't take an "insider" to figure this out
As for your man he wasn't really right. Everybody is reporting this because of the expected next gen cards. It doesn't take an "insider" to figure this out
AlienALX
Well-known member
No I wasn't referring to you or else I would not be typing this
As it happens the information, as usual, came from Asus in Taiwan. I would imagine Asus have played it about as safely as they could, as they could see it as a finite entity.
I guess we will find out who made the most once OCUK start dropping the prices on them lol.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
I dunno. If the new series has some of the new Volta features, video game developers could start pushing their games to take advantage of the new power. Then Pascal and Maxwell will fall off the map and the 1180 could end up being significantly faster than a 1080Ti at a much lower TDP.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Well we have already had the Titan V so we have a rough idea of how fast Volta is. It's not like we have not seen anything Volta yet. It is the expected change from a Titan Xp. Around 30-40%, which is about right. However many of the features are thus far useless, and the cooling is woefully inadequate. It was inadequate for a Titan XP (as I found out, hence 240mm water.).
The 1180 may be faster than the 1080Ti/Xp but that remains to be seen. However, it is made from the latest materials (especially things scarce like VRAM) so it will carry a price to suit.
What you need to ask yourself (whilst remaining calm and not getting carried away/excited) is "Do I need it". Without spending hours boring you I will just say this - games right now need no more than a 1080Ti, period. Even if you are running 4k one is more than ample.
So then with that out of the way, right, we can move onto Volta. It supports proper Ray Tracing. Yes, *early* ray tracing which will be nothing like the full deal. Are there any RT games coming with the card/s? no. How much better will Metro be with RT? we have no idea, but if it's anything like the DX11 version of Dirt 2 vs a hacked DX10? lol no way. It was three years before we started getting true DX11 titles that actually took us to the next level.
Which, if we go around in a circle, leads us back to where we are now. Do you need more than a 1080Ti? no, no you don't.
My XP kicked ass when I got it and it kicks ass now. Why? lol, because pretty much all of the games I have played on it were designed for something else entirely (consoles !) and thus there is hardly any difference playing a 4k game on my PC VS playing it at 4k on my XB1X. So how many games are going to either defy the console sales and be purely made for RT (don't even answer that, I can tell you now - none) and how many will have it bodged on for now? all of them.
Well, until RT comes in the consoles which isn't likely ATM given the contracts all belong to AMD pmsl.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
A lot of users don't think like that though. They don't care that a 1080Ti is enough. IF they see an 1180 significantly outpacing a 1080Ti in even one or two games, they might take that as a sign of the times and jump ship.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Dunno tbh. As I admitted the other day I've gone off all of this stuff so I haven't been reading many computer forums. I think a lot of people have left due to being fed up and etc. It's not just the GPU prices that did this (to me at least) but the prices of RAM and so on. Every time I looked at an upgrade for my rig it was stupendously expensive, so I spent the money elsewhere.
I really wanted to put bigger SSDs in, more (faster) memory and so on. But every time I have priced it up I've just thought "nah, not worth it".
It has all damaged PC gaming in a big way.
AngryGoldfish
Old N Gold
While us forum nerds are by no means a minority, we're not the majority either.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Nope. Certainly not. TBH? "high end" PC gamers are few and far between. You know when it's bad when OCUK gets quiet.
I probably would have bought and built at least one Ryzen rig by now, if it weren't for memory and SSD prices. I quite fancied a high end media streamer before (don't need it now, Xbone has all that covered) but yeah the RAM and SSD would have cost me more than half the cost of the entire rig.
And I am not playing that game (pardon the pun).
I have played Quantum Break at 4k on the PC and Xbone and I can see no real major difference. It looks absolutely stunning on the Xbox, and a couple of times I have actually stopped to take a good look at it, that is how good it looks.
That said there are far more TVs with 4k that PC owners using 4k monitors. I paid £349 for a 55" 4k that does 60hz. Try doing that on a PC.
Well its not hard if you tank the game gfx options to low or medium
But now, is the perfect time for getting good deals on 1080/Ti. I already see prices dropping to Normal/below normal. I just wish we could have seen more FE pop up in retailers again, but that is not going to happen sadly. We would have to settle for whatever is left in surplus which is most likely all the Gigabyte and MSI boards.
Failing that the second hand market is still relatively quiet on 1080 series cards so it gives even more a good reason to buy one new for a good price.
AlienALX
Well-known member
Well its not hard if you tank the game gfx options to low or medium
But now, is the perfect time for getting good deals on 1080/Ti. I already see prices dropping to Normal/below normal. I just wish we could have seen more FE pop up in retailers again, but that is not going to happen sadly. We would have to settle for whatever is left in surplus which is most likely all the Gigabyte and MSI boards.
Failing that the second hand market is still relatively quiet on 1080 series cards so it gives even more a good reason to buy one new for a good price.
It makes no difference dude. Low/medium etc. When you are sitting 20ft+ away you can't see it any how. Seriously, at 4k from that far you can't even see any rough edges at all. I even stood up to go closer to the TV when studying FO4 just to see if there were any and nope.
Like I said, certain parts of QB have stopped me to take a look around. I am further through it on the Xbone than I was on the PC now, so am seeing things I didn't before and it's like "first time very impressed".
But I'm talking about PC not console. Why would i sit so far away from a PC screen?
I keep meaning to try QB out. Was going to get it at launch but well it had many issues being over secure blocking people who had not pirated the game. I waited till bugs were fixed but never got around to getting it.
AlienALX
Well-known member
It's a decent romp. The story gets a bit tiresome, especially one of the cut scenes because it was nearly an hour long
I skipped that in the end, maybe if I play through again I will take the time to watch it all. It was like a bloody movie.What I like though is the puzzles. They're not too hard, but allow you to explore and so on without being shot at. Action scenes are good fun, so it's mostly like Max Payne, and most notably MP3.
NeverBackDown
AMD Enthusiast
No I wasn't referring to you or else I would not be typing this
As it happens the information, as usual, came from Asus in Taiwan. I would imagine Asus have played it about as safely as they could, as they could see it as a finite entity.
I guess we will find out who made the most once OCUK start dropping the prices on them lol.
Yeah it would be nice to see sane prices. They are still to high
In January he was saying that 1080ti was EOL and that there wasnt a shortage, Nvidia just stopped making them because no one was buying them. oh, and Nvidia could instantly ramp up production anytime they wanted, and that there wasnt a RAM shortage affecting GPU supply. Also that you couldn't buy a 1080ti anywhere, unless it was drastically marked up. Even though I pointed out that I had just bought one very nearly at MSRP direct from EVGA with no difficulty. Pretty sure he also said "his guy" wasn't connected anymore as well at some point.
He doesn't respond to my posts anymore, so it may very well be me he was referring to. If so, that's a net win, in my book.
RobM
Active member
I said ages ago a new card would not be released but that was dismissed.
They still wont release the next gen this year, why should they, people are still buying pascal and they have 300k of them now to get shot of, the only thing your likely to see any time soon is another pascal card. They have 0 competition here and thus still have 0 reason to release a card and compete with themselves.
They still wont release the next gen this year, why should they, people are still buying pascal and they have 300k of them now to get shot of, the only thing your likely to see any time soon is another pascal card. They have 0 competition here and thus still have 0 reason to release a card and compete with themselves.
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